Climbers Suck

Gigette Miller wrote: He might as well have shoved a foot-long hot dog down my throat, and taken me to Circus- Circus.

I'd like a little credit for leaving that one alone. Really hard for me for the last hour.

Gigette Miller wrote: That's awful, Tim. I had a similar experience at Beer Night at Larry DeAngelos a few nights ago. Larry fed us gourmet pizza, and provided us with entertaining conversation, and Karsten brought over a big box full of his homemade brew for us to try, and then shared his first ascent photos with us. Why would they do such a thing? Why, why, why, why, WHY!?

That totally sucks, Gigette! There's no way I'm going to look you guys up next time I'm out in Red Rocks. I can't take all of that hospitality. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. I just hate that.

There are times when we, at the forefront of all accomplishment in the universe merely by our vertical prowess (though some could argue ineptitude), need to take a step back and extend the olive branch to others not so fortunate in our mighty pursuit.

By gosh, I think we're long over due for a co-ed naked group hug in the hot tub.

Last night I ended up meeting 3 nice new people to climb with in addition to my partner and his friend. They were too nice and fun. You all know how much that sucks. To make matters worse we had 85% of the mountain to ourselves. I wanted to hang myself out of sheer loneliness. After we climbed these same hooligans made me drink booze eat pizza and laugh pretty hard. They made me feel like we were all old pals. They ought to be ashamed. After being forced to partake in such debauchery I had no choice but to jump on the back of my new partner's motorcycle for a ride back to my car. The whole night was a wash. Hopefully we can all do it again.

Climbing is dumb.

Bouldering is to climbing as tic tac toe is to chess. Sport Climbing is basically top-roping for ego driven no talents. Discuss amongst yourselves.

here is the proper order.....

bouldering
free soloing
trad
sport
aid

ill do them all except aid, if i want help, i will climb a later.

HAHA

how does free soloing come before trad?

I love the original topic and agree with it, however your topics for discussion, well lets just say are ridiculous. All forms of climbing are pretty freakin rad, and most of them can complement each other. If you really feel like "more of a man" for placing gear on a 5.12 than some of those guys bouldering V15 and sport climbing 5.14 and 5.15, well then you better check yourself before you reck yourself, because that shit is pretty freakinn manly.
IMO your manly if your climbing because its fun....any kind of climbing.

brad schierer wrote:how does free soloing come before trad?

in my mind it is levels of risk.

i love all climbing and do everything, but some inherently have more risk. Hence my order. i do agree with the guy above me....all forms rock and if you do any good for you.

so.... free soloing is safer then aid climbing? or trad? or sport? well i better start doing that then or im gonna end up killing myself in a horrible protected fall! o my!

im a climber and i suck :)

This thread is as gay as Liberachi!!

Ternes wrote:so.... free soloing is safer then aid climbing? or trad? or sport? well i better start doing that then or im gonna end up killing myself in a horrible protected fall! o my! im a climber and i suck :)

look at it as the risk decending....like no rope, rope and gear, rope and bolts...get it?

Except with bouldering you have pads, so that is the safer than all of the other ones, or at least free soloing.

Leveille wrote:Except with bouldering you have pads, so that is the safer than all of the other ones, or at least free soloing.

true, so switch those two. although i know people who have broken bones from bouldering and other people have decked and lived with minor bruises....

yes yes climbers do suck. if you arent soloing or whipping on rps you are a communist sissy.

hi my name is kellen and im a communist sissy

To the original post. People are more contentious when they can be anonymous. Easy to talk smack when there is little chance for any repercussions. We devote a lot of time to our sport so we care a lot about it.

As for the order of things:

All risk related.

Soloing - Consequences are pretty clear for blowing it.
Aid/Trad - Gear can pull. Outcome less certain than sport.
Sport - Your belayer COULD drop you. Pretty rare to see a bolt pull.
Bouldering - so you break a bone or twist an ankle. Its just practicing for real climbing.

You will note the level of spray is inverse to my hierarchy.

PT

Spiro wrote: Bouldering is to climbing as tic tac toe is to chess. Sport Climbing is basically top-roping for ego driven no talents. Discuss amongst yourselves. here is the proper order..... bouldering free soloing trad sport aid ill do them all except aid, if i want help, i will climb a later. HAHA

Hardly, a good friend of mine is an aid climber and let me tell you what, aid climbing scares the ever living shit out of me!!! Gnar-gnar!!! Sport is kinda lame, but if you want to climb an unprotectable face it's cool, it pisses me off to see a ladder of bolts next to a perfect hand crack but whatever, Trad pretty much rules, and bouldering is good fun, but I like heights.

Was it Masters of Stone 2 or 3 where the reality of A5 was demonstrated? A 150lb haul bag was tossed onto a couple of dozen placements that zippered before it cratered.

WHat ever happened to Rick Lovelace anyways? Hard aid always scares me...you never know when you are going to POP!

Why do we have to compair climbing styles? Sounds like a feeble attempt to justify lameness if you ask me.

It's all good!

Does anybody remember this one?

"Sport Climbing is Neither"

Ha! I've always liked that one. I do like sport climbing though but it leaves me feeling not quite fulfilled sometimes..