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Daisy T 5.13 8a 29 X- 30 E7 6c PG13
Raven Steals the Sun T 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Type: Trad, Alpine, 400 ft, 3 pitches, Grade III
FA: Kevin Jaramillo Brad Ellen 5-28-2010
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Shared By: KevJ on May 29, 2010
Admins: Aaron Hobson, Jason Halladay, Anthony Stout, LeeAB Brinckerhoff, Marta Reece, Drew Chojnowski

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3 pitch variation of raven Steals The Sun. Daisy was named in honor of a furry friend who passed. Daisy scoped the lines on La Vista with me before Ravens was completed. A fake flower somehow appeared on my rope stack during the FA. It just so happened to be a white daisy. I figured my old pal was thinking about me. I planted the plastic daisy in a crack and thought of her. So after special consideration I think it would be great to name this route Daisy in memory of my little sissy dog.


Pitch 1 Climb the fun left facing dihedral that goes straight off Living Room Ledge up to a stance and fixed pin. Climb up past a bolt to another pin below the crux. Clip another bolt and climb up through a steep bulge ending with a mantle 5.13. Climb up to a thin flake and traverse left to a stance. Creative (don't be "single" minded), but solid gear gets you up to another bolt and a crack feature. Crank some 5.12 moves to a stance then up and left to the sweet belay ledge.

Pitch 2 Climb straight up through an awkward mantle and 2 fixed pins. 5.10/11. Continue up a left facing crack/flake through another bulge ending on a sweet stance below a series of roofs. Passage is allowed by working up through the big roof past a bolt escaping through the roofs on their left side to a belay stance.

Pitch 3
Climb up past 2 bolts and then up above the belay 5.10. Go straight up directly to top and belay off the pine tree.



La Vista is located at the southeast flank of Echo Canyon South of Yucca Flower Tower. The routes are reached in two ways. One option is to descend Echo Canyon via the climbers trail for Techweeny, Bushshark etc... but go south past Yucca Flower Tower until a large left facing dihedral is visible near the top of the wall. Locate a smooth slab with a seam cutting the center at the base of the wall. This is Raven Steals the Sun. A second approach and maybe more desirable approach is to rappel into La Vista via Raven Steals The Sun (see description) or rappel Daisy.

The crux is locating the summit of the routes. From the major bend in the La Luz trail walk out to La Vista overlook. This is an open grassy area with a small stone wall that makes a great viewing seat. From here head down a faint trail towards Echo Canyon. Once you are at (what appears to be a big Gulley heading towards the tram) stay high and go south keeping the tram at about 9/10 o'clock. A notch is down climbed through the rocks straight in front of you at this point. You find yourself in another notch after the short downclimb. Go uphill towards albuquerque and gain an obvious summit point. Head south along the edge scrambling onto a saddle down in a notch. At this point there are gulleys on the SE side of the saddle and one that cliffs out on the west. The saddle offers a nice shaded flat spot to rack up and leave the packs. The top of Daisy is maybe 15-20yds NW of the saddle. We scrambled down the exposed edge to the medium sized pine tree. We left red webbing on the tree. Also the top-out for Raven Steals the Sun. How-ever the rappel for Raven Steals the Sun is located about another 25-30yds NW from this tree. The rappel for Ravens is a fat trunked tree right on the edge.

Daisy can be rappelled with a single 70m rope. You will need some webbing or cordelette for the belay of the last pitch. Daisy starts from Living Room Ledge or descend down the large gully to the base of the wall and climb the first pitches of Raven Steals the Sun for a bigger outing. Beware that it cliffs out when descending the gully from Living Room Ledge and you will need to rappel from a good tree with a single 70m rope to reach the ground.

The line was established ground up taking whips on the crux over a hand-full of days. There was how-ever one bolt that was added on rap. We used the big gully one too MANY times to retreat up and out of La Vista while working the route. The big gully is one way to retreat, but is not recommended unless you are familiar with Sandia scrambling. Ascend the large gully (east) from Living Room Ledge being careful not to roll the big chockstone/boulder on yourself. At the saddle scramble up (north) and to the summit of La Vista. Be careful of rotten stone. A second retreat is to rappel back into Echo Canyon and hike up (north) to the La Luz.


Sandia Trad Rack consisting of one set of wires. One set of RP's. Small cams (such as C3's) to a BD #2. #3 optional for pitch 2 of Daisy. Bolted Belays. SW facing, lots of exposure to elements so watch out for thunderstorms. Still no super human powers to report Jason.
William Penner
The 505
William Penner   The 505
Super fun route Kevin and Brad. The first pitch is uber-classic, the second pitch is a great, steep jug haul with a tough rockover that kinda takes you by surprise, the third pitch is better left unmentioned. Still four stars though.

The first pitch is perhaps the best hard line I've been on in the Sandias and a step up in overall difficulty from Cat Daddy. The upper crux is crusher after everything that came before, but the lower crux is fairly straight-forward with a long reach between good holds.

The real crux is figuring out how to warm up before jumping right on the 1st pitch.

Nice job. Nov 10, 2010
John Kear
Albuquerque, NM
John Kear   Albuquerque, NM
Amazing climbing with a couple of super burly cruxes. The first and second pitches are ultra high quality. The 5.11 pitch is one of the cooler pitches of that grade that I've done in quite a while. I'm ignoring the 3rd pitch and thinking of it as more of the way off then the actual climb. I figure I'll give it four stars and ya'll can give it three and it comes out at a solid 3.2 star route.

Nice job putting this rig together Kevin and Brad! Nov 7, 2010
LeeAB Brinckerhoff
LeeAB Brinckerhoff   ABQ, NM  
First 2 pitches are great. On the first pitch a couple of revolvers on the furthest right and left pieces (above the first crux) as well as a long draw on the on the bolt before the one that protects the first crux will go a long way to alleviate rope drag near the top of the pitch. The second pitch is really nice steep climbing with good holds except for the awkward mantel crux thing, the #3 camalot os not really necessary, you have a bolt at your feet and a pin is only one easy move above where you would place it.

Would be 4 stars but for the last pitch which leaves a bad taste in the mouth, is that lichen crunching in my teeth and getting in my eyes?, did that clipping hold just move? This last pitch could use some love.

All in all a really great route. Nice find Kevin. Nov 7, 2010
Brad Ellen
  5.13 PG13
Brad Ellen  
  5.13 PG13
Awesome route. P1 is a pleasure to work off the living room ledge. Play nicely with the undercling before the second crux. P2 is super fun. I think I place a BD #3. Thanks Kevin for the memorable project. May 29, 2010