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Birdland

5.7+, Trad, 600 ft (182 m), 6 pitches, Grade II,  Avg: 3.4 from 1,803 votes
FA: Mark Limage and Chris Burton, 2001
Nevada > Southern Nevada > Red Rocks > Pine Creek Canyon > Brass Wall
Warning Access Issue: Red Rock RAIN AND WET ROCK: The sandstone is fragile and is very easily damaged when wet. DetailsDrop down

Description

A beautiful climb with a variety of moves. This route is nice to do in the cooler months, as it's in the sun all day. Approach as to "The Brass Wall." This route is on "Brass Wall Left." The first pitch is also the start of a climb called "The Big Horn." Starts on a ledge with a single scrub oak.

Pitch 1: Climb the obvious crack which shoots up to the big ledge. Continue up the well-protected varnished crack/face with lots of features for hands and feet. This pitch loves nuts! Climb straight up to the big ledge with a scrub oak. Bolted anchors. 5.6.

Pitch 2: Stay right of the chimney (the chimney to the left of the anchors is the start of pitch 2 of The Big Horn.) Start on the face above the anchors. Climb up to a left-facing corner. There are a couple of little offwidth moves in this section. Stay right at the top of the chimney, stepping out of the alcove, then move left into the crack, climbing up to a ledge with loose rock and bolted anchors. 5.7.

Pitch 3: Climb up about 10 feet and look to your left, for a left-leaning, right-facing corner/ramp. Follow the fun, narrow ramp, continuing to traverse left, to a protection bolt. The pro is a little tricky before the bolt: nuts in not too obvious seams. Move a little left of the bolt, then go straight up to the thin right-facing corner and up right to a ledge with bolted anchors. 5.7+.

Pitch 4: Climb up and traverse right about 20-30 feet heading for black varnished face holds. Climb up the black varnished face, following the path of least resistance, to a belay at a small stance. The P4 belay can not be seen until about 15 feet from it. A good amount of gear can be had on this pitch. 5.6.

Note: Don't go straight up from the belay; the climbing peters out into unprotectable face climbing on less than inspiring white/orange rock.

Pitch 5: From the belay look up and right 60 feet or more for a light brown 2-3 ft roof (about 20-30 feet to the right of the belay). Birdland goes just left of the edge of that roof and up the nice crack that is above the roof and out of sight. This pitch ends with a beautiful finger crack to a triangular stepping stool to reach the anchors. The last moves to the belay are the crux. Fight for this pitch! 5.7+.

Note: On pitch 5 do not go up and left. From the belay one can see white slings on an anchor about 30-40 feet left. This anchor is for a new route and not Birdland.

Pitch 6: 5.7R, that I haven't done, which consists of climbing on loose rock, to an anchor. [admin's note: best to pass on pitch 6-- loose rock directly above the belayer, minimal pro, etc. Way out of character with the rest of the route.]

Rap the route with two ropes or with one 70m rope. All the rap stations except the 1st have two sets of anchors, so it's pretty easy to rap past other parties who are still climbing.

Protection

Standard rack to 3". Bring a good selection of nuts and plenty of long runners as the route wanders a bit.

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Route Overlay Birdland
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Topo of Birdland, Spectrum area, Red Rocks Nevada.
[Hide Photo] Topo of Birdland, Spectrum area, Red Rocks Nevada.
Birdland approach hiking route.
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On Birdland
[Hide Photo] On Birdland
Lord Beandon in the midst of the V7 crux
[Hide Photo] Lord Beandon in the midst of the V7 crux
Ringtail spotted while rapping down Birdland on 2/2/17
[Hide Photo] Ringtail spotted while rapping down Birdland on 2/2/17
Chuck on the p5 finger crack
[Hide Photo] Chuck on the p5 finger crack
Birdland, showing the first five pitches.<br>
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Edited to show the usual first pitch. An alternate start, up a wider crack to the right, is shown in red.
[Hide Photo] Birdland, showing the first five pitches. Edited to show the usual first pitch. An alternate start, up a wider crack to the right, is shown in red.
Zoom of last 10 minutes of Birdland approach.
[Hide Photo] Zoom of last 10 minutes of Birdland approach.
Birdland route from above, with GPS coordinates.
[Hide Photo] Birdland route from above, with GPS coordinates.
This is the only reason I climbed this route!! November 2007
[Hide Photo] This is the only reason I climbed this route!! November 2007
Gigi flys up Birdland p1.
[Hide Photo] Gigi flys up Birdland p1.

Comments [Hide ALL Comments]

[Hide Comment] I don't think a single 60 meter rope will reach from atop pitch 2's anchors down to pitch one's anchors, and if you came up short you'd have to downclimb one of two chimneys. Nov 20, 2005
Matt Faust
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] I'm 95% sure that we rapped straight from the P3 belay to the P1 belay with a single 60, and only had to downclimb a short bit of that easy chimney. It worked very well for us.

This route is great, love the 2nd and 3rd pitches. Nov 22, 2005
[Hide Comment] There are three variations for the second pitch. The first variation is that which is described. The second is to climb the chimney -- which I think is a lot more fun than the face -- and the third is to climb the arete to the left of the chimney.

I have never climbed the arete. Does anyone know how hard it is?

It is NOT possible to rappel pitch five with a sixty meter rope. Both the first and the second pitch require downclimbing with a single sixty as well.

The sixth pitch is not worth doing.

Lastly, many parties blast up Birdland and ignore the Bighorn handcrack off to the left. The crack pitch of Bighorn is well worth doing while you're up there.

Jason Nov 22, 2005
Matt Faust
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Oops, Jason you jogged my memory. Above I said we rapped from P3 to P1, but that's obviously not true. I remember lusting after the Big Horn handcrack, but it looked pretty tough from my vantage. How hard is that crack, Jason? Nov 23, 2005
[Hide Comment] The Bighorn Crack is 5.8.

Jason Nov 25, 2005
[Hide Comment] What is the correct name of Joe Herbst's route? Is it The Big Horn or The Bighorn? I've seen it written both ways . If I have it wrong in my description, I apologize. Dec 9, 2005
phil broscovak
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Birdland is a totally fabulous route! One of my favorite routes in RR. Jorge Urioste took our kids on a nature hike so Julia and I could relax and enjoy the climb. I don't know if my ankle-biting rug rats will ever fully appreciate what an honor it was to be tour guided by a legend, but Julia and I still break into perma-grins thinking about that day. THANK YOU Jorge! The finger crack on the fifth pitch is not to be missed! The belay stance is wild. I can only imagine the sphincter puckering that took place when whatever stood atop the triangle ledge cut loose. It is totally clean and scenic now. Jorge told me the fourth pitch while easy was unprotected. Probably because most of the hard cores just 3rd class through it. On the other hand I was able to essentially lace it up with decent gear every fifteen feet or less. Probably because I am anything but hard core. The climbing on every pitch of Birdland is aesthetic and varied. This climb is a real treat for the senses. Be careful running and pulling rap ropes around pitch three. Dec 12, 2005
[Hide Comment] If you don't have a 70m rope, and you don't want to bring a second rope for the rappels, it is possible to get down with one 60m rope if you don't mind a little minor downclimbing.
(Disclaimer: I didn't climb the sixth pitch but the Brock/McMillen book says it's only 80 feet long so a 60m would be more than adequate if that's true.)
Anyhow, here's how we did it from the anchor at the top of pitch five:
From P5 anchor I rapped straight down the face towards the P4 anchor. When I reached the knots I'd tied in the rope ends I was just a couple feet above the P4 anchor bolts. I easily reached down and clipped myself straight in to one of the bolts. I then took myself off rappel and stepped down to the P4 belay stance.
From P4 anchor to P3 anchor the rope reached easily.
From P3 anchor to the large ledge with the P2 anchor the rope again reached easily.
From the P2 anchor I rapped down and into the chimney that is the start of the second pitch of The Big Horn route. I took myself off rappel about ten feet shy of the large P1 belay ledge. From there it was an easy, unexposed downclimb to the ledge.
From the anchors atop P2 I rapped straight down towards the base of the climb. Again I had to take myself off rappel about ten feet shy of the ground, but once again it was an easy, unexposed downclimb to reach the ground.
(Reminder: Don't forget to tie stopper knots in the rope ends before each rappel!) Jan 30, 2006
Tim Baguley
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Route may be safely rappelled with a 70m rope. You can also rap the route with a single 60m rope, but you will need to do a bit of down-climbing (or reaching out to clip into anchor bolts from the bottom of the rope) on a couple pitches...I don't recommend this for inexperienced climbers. If you do rap the route with a 60m rope, MAKE SURE TO TIE STOPPER KNOTS in the end of the rope! Feb 1, 2006
marc rosenthal
Canyon Lake, TX
 
[Hide Comment] Regarding the Bighorn pitch on the left: This is a great pitch with big moves and good pro. However, above the pitch is one of the worst anchor stations I have ever seen. There is a two/three bolt set up with a hanger on one side and no hanger on the other. Due to the location of the hanger and the nearest natural pro, it is better to set pro in the rock than use the anchor, since it is hard to equalize. If anyone knows if this anchor has been improved, please update. Feb 21, 2006
[Hide Comment] The beta in the new fat red guidebook is a little off, I think, on P4. It says to look for a right-facing corner by a roof, where I think most climbers would refer to that feature as a crack (by a roof).

There is an obvious anchor with slings almost directly above the P3 belay. This is not the Birdland anchor, so stay right as per route description. The P4 anchor isn't visible until you're over a bulge and almost to it.

Very catchy route for rapping. Mar 7, 2006
karl g wilcox
las vegas, NV
[Hide Comment] Bighorn should really be considered a Red Rock 5.9. Good pro, but a bit thin to qualify for a 5.8. Cheers, Karl Wilcox Apr 10, 2006
[Hide Comment] Climbed this route last week with Joe Chorny. We only had the Swain book (which doesn't have Birdland) so had to use this website to get info on the route. The pictures and description here allowed us to find the base of the route but honestly the info on the 4th and 5th pitches is misleading and could use improvement.

From the top of the third pitch the route moves more than slightly right - it is more like 20-30 feet right. Look up and right for black varnished face holds. Slightly up and right from the belay peters out into unprotectable face climbing on less than inspiring white/orange rock. The P4 belay can not be seen until about 15 feet from it. There was very little chalk on this pitch to give hint of being on route. A good amount of gear can be had on this pitch.

On pitch 5 do not go up and left. From that belay one can see white slings on an anchor about 30-40 feet left (mentioned in previous post here). This anchor is for a new route and not Birdland. It turns out the FA person on that route (Karl Wilcox) was there that day and told us where to go on Birdland's 5th pitch. From the belay look up and right 60 feet or more for a light brown 2-3 ft roof (about 20-30 feet to the right of the belay). Birdland goes just left of the edge of that roof and the nice crack is above that and out of sight.

Overall the route was pretty good - we'd give it 2-2.5 stars. For grade 7+ is reasonable. There felt like there were a couple of 8 moves on the route - one on the third pitch past the bolt and the last move on pitch 5 but the rest was 6 or 7. Apr 15, 2006
[Hide Comment] James,
Thanks for your beta. I will be sure to update the info. for pitch 4 and 5, but will first try to consult with Mark Limage (FA of Birdland) in order to be as accurate as we can.
Or... if one more climber, familiar with Birdland can attest to your beta, I'll change it right away.
My poor partner led pitch 4, and I know he (and probably others) would have liked more pro opportunities on that pitch, such as beta that you have described.
Interesting about new routes by Birdland; you sneaky climbers, you!!
And Silly James...there's no "8" moves on this climb,.....(:]) Apr 15, 2006
phil broscovak
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Hello Gigette,
I would agree that both pitch 4 and pitch 5 involve significant movement to the right. Of the two, pitch 4 traverses the furthest right. If you were to drop plumb bobs from the start and end points of pitch 4 it would easily be 25 feet or more. I have led that pitch twice and have found sufficient good gear to feel fairly at ease. It is an up and over route and gear finding adventure. Yes there are spans of no pro but by tying together discontinuous cracks with tricams, wired stoppers and long slings(perhaps double ropes to reduce drag)it is a safe pitch. I really think it is a great pitch if you are looking around with an open eye. Pitch 5 does start out going up and right to the "cool" crack in the roof and the abondanza above.
And I personally would endorse an overall 5.8 rating for the route.
As a side comment to all, rap how you will but know how to handle a stuck rope. This climb has a practical joker's sense about its ability to catch ropes. This route is popular so use caution when yanking stuck ropes off of flakes. Apr 16, 2006
[Hide Comment] Thanks Phil and James!
At the time my partner and I climbed route, we had little information on pitches 3-6. Neither of us had done Birdland before. We were actually planning on climbing 'Big Horn' that day, but was not looking forward to the sustained nature of that beautiful "old school" Joe Herbst route.
Re: Birdland..pitches 4 and 5, we took a fairly direct line (only traversed slightly right on pitch 4, and on pitch 5, I did end up right at the fun, beautiful fingercrack section. Looks like there are more pro opportunities per your beta of Birdland's pitch 4 and 5.
I'll have to climb route again, using your beta to see if I'll still award it 4 stars, as there is quite a bit of traversing and more of a wandery nature to Birdland's upper pitches(4 and 5)than what my partner and I did. Apr 16, 2006
[Hide Comment] Thanks for updating the description Gigi - this should help future parties on the route. I guess since you can call me "silly" I can call you "Gigi"? Apr 16, 2006
[Hide Comment] You got me all excited to do Birdland again, but Big Horn is next on my list if I'm up that way.
I was able to do the first two pitches of Big Horn,after work with Jonny, which was long after I had done B.L.(B.T.W.,That's when Jonny took that "Gigi" photo of me above on first pitch).I did Birdland with another partner of mine. Since my nickname is out in the open now, you can proceed to call me Gigi, silly James.

P.S. Big Horn does look thin and 5.9ish, as Karl mentioned above, but that's an old school Joe Herbst route for ya! If anyone has done Big Horn, can you write up a description on it? Apr 16, 2006
George Bell
Boulder, CO
 
[Hide Comment] Rather than replace the old description of the top pitches, I'd prefer that it remain described as a variation. Or maybe add it as a separate route "Birdland Variation". It's nice to know what all the options are. Apr 19, 2006
[Hide Comment] George

The route info Phil and I provided is the true route for Birdland and as such should be reflected in the main description. When the new route is completed to the left (at 5.7+ so says Karl the FA person) then it can be described as a variation.

Gigi - on the main description at some point it should be consolidated and mention of lowly me can be removed. It is not like I'm an authority on RR. Perhaps after you climb Birdland again you can update the description as you see fit. Apr 21, 2006
[Hide Comment] Sounds good James about consolidating later on (after I climb it again, and after Karl's new route listed for variation to B.L.).
P.S. You're not silly anymore. Apr 21, 2006
Ron Olsen
Boulder, CO
 
[Hide Comment] An ultra-classic route that will become extremely popular once word gets out. Climb it now before the crowds arrive!

There is a well-cairned trail all the way up to the route. At the end, sneak left under a big chockstone next to the wall to get to a spacious ledge system below the climb. The landmark for the route is the scrub oak on a ledge about 110' up, and a crack with lots of face holds that goes straight up to the right side of the tree.

I thought the first pitch was very easy; it felt more like 5.4 or 5.5 with all the face holds around the crack.

The anchor atop the second pitch is a knotted sling and quick link attached to two offset bolts. The equalization on this anchor isn't perfect for rappelling; it needs to be fixed. Another quick link (or rap rings) should be added. Even better, put chains on the bolts.

The revised route description is spot on; we had no trouble staying on route on the 4th and 5th pitches. Ample chalk marks the way. The crux of the climb is the last move to the belay on the fifth pitch: thin cracks and a smooth varnished face (5.7+ to 5.8). The rest of the climb is enjoyable 5.5 to 5.7. We didn't do the sixth pitch.

A 70m rope is the way to go, with fewer rappelling hassles than two ropes. Be careful pulling the rope from the anchor atop the second pitch to avoid getting the rope hung up in the chimney. Apr 25, 2006
Ron Olsen
Boulder, CO
 
[Hide Comment] P2 rap anchor discussion moved to Birdland P2 Rappel Anchor. Apr 25, 2006
Bill Gibbs
Wichita, Ks.
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] A better description for the approach would be to disregard the standard approach for Brass Wall. Instead, continue on the main trail and after you have passed Brass Wall "Left", and started the switchbacking for Darkshadows area, look for a couple of huge, light colored boulders with darker spots all over them. Near those boulders look for a trail off to the right and follow the cairns.

My partner and I got rained off just as I was 15' out on the 4th pitch lead, so we didn't get to finish the route. However, the first 3 pitches are well worth climbing again and I will go back next time out and finish it. The Bighorn crack pitch looks super and hope to get on that as well.

On the 3rd pitch, the traverse to and past the bolt sews up great with small aliens. I remember a perfect blue alien placement under a solid flake to get past the bad "splat" swing potential before clipping the bolt. You should probably be solid at 5.8 leading on this pitch, have a strong lead head, or just don't look back before clipping the bolt if you can't sew it up.

Be careful on the rope eating rappels. Had to re-climb and down climb half of pitch 2 because of stuck rope on rappel. Oct 27, 2006
Jason C.
Las Vegas
[Hide Comment] great route... lot of fun, fight for p. 5!!! get there early to beat the crowds... the route is getting very popular! Dec 4, 2006
karl wilcox
Weimar, CA
[Hide Comment] Just a suggestion to anyone who finds that they can't get on Birdland due to crowding (and the crowding can get quite heavy) Rawlpindi is a nice alternative, and it is not really a variation to Birdland as it follows an independent line to the left. The climbing is similar, but protecting the 4th pitch takes a bit of ingenuity with placing cams in pods and pockets between the bolts. Someone may want to put some lap links on the rap anchors on Rawlpindi, as I placed the current grey slings about 9 months ago-- Feb 12, 2007
Brandt Allen
Joshua Tree, Cal
[Hide Comment] Just to confirm what others have said, a single 60 meter rope is fine for this route. The only difficulties are stretching the first rap down to the top of pitch 4 and down-climbing the last ten feet to the top of pitch 2. Neither situation is serious enough to justify a second rope.
A great route; every pitch is excellent! Mar 15, 2007
Josh Audrey
LAS VEGAS
  5.7
[Hide Comment] no doubt this was a fun day.if you are even considering doing cat in the hat, blow it off and take a ride up birdland way more fun. my friend and i headed up today and heard a traffic jam up at cat and the hat while we were chillin at a nice pace with nobody else above or below us.great moderate climb. Mar 15, 2007
[Hide Comment] Just back from Red Rocks and a run up the "Bird". Beautiful route! In anticipation of the expected rope stretching 60 meter rap off the last pitch, I did the following: Tied a corda-lette to the anchors at the top of pitch 4, then I led up about 10 ft. and used a nut to "fix" the corda-lette to the bottom of the pitch 5 finger crack. Then on the rap, I simply reached over, clipped into the corda-lette, ran the rap knots right up against my rap device (use beefy knots and a biner through them). Still had to go inverted to reach the bolts though!!! Climbing down the 3 moves to the bolts is easy too. Bottom line is go with the 60 meter rope if that's what you have!!! Follow Bill's advice on the approach, worked well for us. Mar 28, 2007
Tim Shea
Fort Lauderdale, FL
 
[Hide Comment] Fun Climb, the traverse on the third pitch, and final crack on pitch 5 are the highlights of the climb. Just enough to keep you interested. Very easy approach for RR. Just another great RR 5.7 Oct 10, 2007
Aerili
Los Alamos, NM
 
[Hide Comment] My partner and I rapped this with a single 60 m and it was no problem (we took the Michael Allen comments as good to go, and they were!). If you can lead this climb, you can easily downclimb the two short sections of 5.4/5.5 on the last two raps; they both are only about 7-10 feet of secure and easy moves. I don't see the point in hauling a second rope for this route.

This route was very good; my only wish is that there had been more sustained climbing at the upper end of the grade on most of the pitches. Nov 24, 2007
Karsten Duncan
Sacramento, CA
 
[Hide Comment] I was a little disappointed after all the fanfare this route gets. Still, a nice route in a really cool place with some great moves for a 5.7. Even though I know everything on this route has been yarded on I felt the route still had that fragile feeling (I won't be soloing it anytime soon).

If your squeemish there is one "close call" rappel if your using a 60m up high but I found the other belays to be quite easy to navigate a downclimb.

Oh, and be sure and get your own copy of the guidebook photo on the second to last pitch fingercrack. Jan 21, 2008
raygay
Las Vegas, Nevada
 
[Hide Comment] Birdland is becoming more and more popular. On nice days you are likely to have company. You can avoid rapping down onto parties climbing P4 and P5 below you by continuing past the P5 anchor to the nearby anchor at the top of Rawlpindi. Instead of stopping on the small slanted shelf on Birdland's P5 anchor, continue up and left about 40 feet to the Rawlpindi 2-bolt anchor (after checking to be sure no one is coming up Rawlpindi) and belay your follower at the Rawlpindi anchor. It's a one rope rappel to the next 2-bolt anchor below on Rawlpindi. Then use two ropes to rappel down to the anchor on the little ledge at the top of Birdland's P3. Mar 9, 2008
Greg Barnes
American Safe Climbing Asso…
[Hide Comment] marc rosenthal - vegastradguy and I replaced the Big Horn anchor this February (2008). Apr 12, 2008
climber73
Fort Collins, CO
 
[Hide Comment] Don't forget the thin gear. Bring small stoppers and small tcus if you're close to your limit. Nov 5, 2008
[Hide Comment] Topos of this route are hard to find, so I posted one here. Comments and corrections are appreciated.

Brutus Nov 27, 2008
Ron Graham
  5.8
[Hide Comment] Stay alert when you are on pitch 4 if there are climbers above you. A couple that did the 6th pitch accidentally trundled one of the loose stones up there past us. It would have been deadly if it had hit anyone. For this reason, I'd suggest not trying to do the 6th pitch if you have any other teams climbing below you.

The stances at the top of the first 4 pitches are big enough to comfortably fit a group of 3 climbing together. However, the small, triangular shelf at the top of pitch 5 is only big enough for two people, and becomes pretty tight for the two of them when flaking the rope and setting up a rappel.

You can rap each pitch with a single 70M rope, but given that you must do some traversing and searching to find the anchors at the top of pitches 3 and 4, it would be wise to tie the ends of the rope and/or use an autoblock during your rappel. Jan 30, 2009
J Wolfski
slc, ut
 
[Hide Comment] did this with one 60 meter rope. Not recommended but was able to pull it off with a sketchy rap on Pitch 5 (required reaching down and clipping into anchors on pitch 4, maybe extend your rappel device and this will help). then required about 10 feet of easy down climbing to get to pitch 1 anchors. Apr 14, 2009
J. Albers
Colorado
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] I have tried rappelling with a single 60m rope and it didn't work....even with a 190lb person on the end to aid with rope stretch. Rapping from the top of pitch 5 left my partner dangling 4-5 above the anchor. Even with knots tied in the end of the rope it wasn't a super pleasant experience (neither was jugging back up the rope). As vegastrad says though, a 70m would seem fine.
Cheers. May 13, 2009
drewford
Wasatch Back, UT
[Hide Comment] Great route. But the popularity strains the anchor/rappel arrangement. We were one of five parties, and an alternate rappel route would have been a big bonus. Nov 16, 2009
Jesse Morehouse
CO
  5.7
[Hide Comment] Fun, mellow route but WAY TOO CONGESTED!!!! We were the first folks there the morning we did it. By the time we rapped we passed 6 parties (on a 5 pitch climb!!!!). I mean, it was a really fun route but not THAT good!!!! If you see people hanging off like grapefruit, go somewhere else and climb some other super cool route. Ive heard there are a few around... Dec 9, 2009
[Hide Comment] easy to do with a single 60m. Only have to downclimb about 10' in an easy chimney section on P2. Single 60m gets you to the anchors on every other pitch. Fun route, but a bit of a monotonous jug-haul the whole way. Apr 17, 2010
Richard Denker
Portland OR
  5.7
[Hide Comment] Only two double length runners are required for the third pitch one at the bolt and at the next pro placement. All other placements can be protected with regular length runners.

If you're not careful rope drag on the fourth pitch can be worse than the third pitch. (A party a head of us learned that the hard way.)

Do anything short of killing your partner for the fifth pitch. If that does not work, demand pitches 1, 2 and 3. Let him take pitches 4 and 5.

Pitch 1 is fun. Pitch 2 for a 5.7 is thought provoking. Pitch 3 is fun and interesting, not as runout as it looks. The crux of pitch 4 is route finding, if in doubt head right and up (look for a horizontal seam). The start of pitch 5 does not look special, but once above the roof it is a great pitch. May 4, 2010
Rich F.
Colorado Springs, CO
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Great climb, but incredibly crowded -- even on a weekday. Reminds me of Yogi Berra's quote, "Nobody goes there anymore...it's too crowded." Started in the "cave" and did the right crack on the 1st pitch. Bad idea -- one spot in the crack ate my rope on the way up, heinous drag. Loved the third pitch. Mar 24, 2011
Jeremy Taylor (JT)
NV
  5.7
[Hide Comment] Cool Route B. I had alot of fun. I think my favorite part was the P3 traverse, but there shouldn't have been a bolt there, i placed a nice TCU in the undercling (which i took out after i looked up and left) That would have been spicy. Great job. Well traveled (no less than 5 teams on the route the whole day, and one of them ate my sandwinch out of my pack, Grrrrrr) Apr 15, 2011
George Bell
Boulder, CO
 
[Hide Comment] This route is great, but the last two belays are not crowd friendly -- just two bolts without much of a stance. The last belay in particular is a hanging belay except for the leader who gets the foothold. To pass the people coming up, we rapped from the top of 4 all the way to 2 with two 60m ropes. A clever ploy until our ropes got hung up on the way down. We also got the rope hung up on the rap from the top of p 2, and others got ropes hung up on the p 1 rap. Recommend you pull your knots over the lip (or better, borrow a 70m rope). Apr 20, 2011
Mike Caruso
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Great route. Route finding was easy and climbing rarely gets harder than 5.6. P2 was the most sustained (aerobic)and P5 built up to a nice final crux. I think the most run out it gets is on the P2 offwidth moves. P3 can be sewn up with nuts and a #3 camalot before the bolt and with nuts after and above the bolt. I agree that the bolt is not needed. P4 & 5 have gear placements when you need them. We only had one group in front of us and had the climb to ourselves once they rapped by. We rapped cleanly, but there are many features to grab your rope. May 4, 2011
Mtnfly
El Segundo, Ca
 
[Hide Comment] Climbed this today as a group of three. Was beautiful day, route is fun and interesting for a new leader. I felt the pro opportunities were pretty spaced out on pitch four. The climbing is 5.6ish through this section, but the route is bit ambiguous at this point and it feels like you are climbing into the unknown until the anchors finally pop into view. We rapped with double 60's which was a huge pain in my ass managing all that rope at the hanging belays up top while trying to rap past other parties. Our ropes did not get stuck. Good route. Oct 27, 2011
[Hide Comment] Climbed Birdland this past weekend. A single 60M rope DOES NOT work. A group above us rapping down from pitch 5 did not reach the pitch 4 anchors and it created a real mess! Nov 23, 2011
Carl A
brooklyn, ny
[Hide Comment] Do these 'land (frogland, birdland) have anything to do with all those 'land gunk's routes (disneyland, ect)?

Sure dont look like gunks routes... Dec 8, 2011
Eric-D
Las Vegas, nv
[Hide Comment] There is a chockstone ready to fall out half way up the second pitch. It seems somewhat secure when pushed down but I gave it a lite tap upwards and it moved very easily. It's about 1' around and large enough to be serious. Oct 29, 2012
[Hide Comment] Great climb. Didn't do the 6th pitch because of the comments from other climbers that it wasn't worth it. We rapped the whole route with one 70M rope. The 5th pitch is the toughest right at the end of the pitch. Don't go firing up for the last hold that looks like a ledge. It's not a ledge.

The rap down from the 3rd pitch can eat your rope. Throw your rope out as far as you can to keep it from falling into the crack. When you pull it make sure you try to whip it out away from the wall. This is hard when there are a bunch of people climbing below you.

As someone said before the approach is easiest if you go past the wall and double back up the switch backs. It's a lot longer approach than the 30 minutes in the guidebook. More like an hour over some tough terrain.

Very enjoyable route. Nov 20, 2012
Canon
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] The very end of P5, basically the last move before the anchor, has a loose rock in the left handhold. We would have tossed it, but there were people below us somewhere. Rapped down no problem with a 70m, passing another party coming up to the P2 belay. Passing people at the higher belays could causes quite the interesting traffic jam. Good intro route for the area. Dec 8, 2012
Ashley allard
Las Vegas, nv
[Hide Comment] Climbed this today and had a blast. Had a bit of a chilly start at 7am but as the sun hit the wall the temp was perfect. On the way down we rapped past a couple parties from Phoenix. Jan 6, 2013
Creed Archibald
Salt Lake City, UT
 
[Hide Comment] Really fun and varied route. I led all the pitches. P5 is the crux, but P3 is the most fun. If I were fighting for one of the leads, definitely P3.

Also, we were climbing on 60m half ropes. We were able to rappel from the top of P5 to the top of P3. It was a rope stretcher, but it worked. Only issue was the rope got snagged a few times. Definitely tie knots in the rope if you attempt this. Mar 24, 2013
G. Vesp
Las Vegas, Nevada
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Great climb!! Rock can be somewhat brittle on the first pitch. The third pitch traverse and the last 25 feet of pitch 5 are awesome IMO!! We climbed on a 70 meter rope and I was glad that we did not have two 60's with a knot when we started to rap. Quite a few snag hazards when pulling. If you have a 70, I would use it on this climb and save yourself some hassel. Great day!! Oct 23, 2013
mojojojo Cee
Los Angeles, CA
[Hide Comment] Climb this on Saturday, use a suppose to be 70m rope (which I tihnk it was only 60M), but I think the rope was short. cause when we were rapping down from P5 to P4, we are 5' short to anchor. I end up down climb to P4 anchor.
then again on P3 to P2, and P2 to P1.

Also, find a stopping stuck in the crack on P3 right after the traverse. if that's yours, email me and descripe it, and i will get it back to you. Oct 28, 2013
musicDave
Blacksburg
[Hide Comment] It is easy to get your ropes stuck on the rappel. We got one of our twin ropes stuck today (March 13). Luckily there was another party and they let us go down on their rope. We are heading back tomorrow morning to get our green/yellow rope. Mar 13, 2014
[Hide Comment] Great Route! That finger crack at the top was awesome. The only thing that wasn't awesome was that I dropped my brand new FiveTen Anasazi Verde left shoe from the top and watched it bounce down the wall. We didn't know where it landed (or if it did) and so it couldn't be found. If you find it, e-mail tonytheclimber@gmail.com. Other than that it was an amazing route and an amazing day. Mar 21, 2014
Jon Booth
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] The rappels for P5 & P4 can be combined with 60m doubles. Knot the ends- there will only be 1m of extra rope! May 1, 2014
[Hide Comment] We were on this climb Wednesday and not one other party showed up the whole time. I was shocked! Fun climb, but didn't get to do what sounds like the funnest pitch because new rope was twisting so bad was having trouble getting it through belay device on pitch 4, which was a little nerve racking. Oct 24, 2014
Matt N
CA
[Hide Comment] Fixed a blue mastercam on P1 yesterday - good luck getting it out. Hint, it went in from the bottom. Otherwise, fun route and 70m recommended. A bit disappointed by the hyped final crack, climbs without jambs or finger locks. Mar 15, 2015
Manderson198
Chattanooga, TN
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Climbed this with Eric several months ago. This was my first trad multi-pitch. Great route. We climbed the first five pitches and then rapped. The fifth is the money pitch. Amazing. The sixth looked pretty terrible, but it would be fun to climb sometime, if nothing else but to honor the first ascentionists. Given the loose rock, I would only do this if there were no parties below. We hiked back to our car, drove to Calico Basin, and climbed Physical Graffiti afterward. Mar 19, 2015
M Bageant
Los Angeles, CA
 
[Hide Comment] For a little more beta on rapping the route---

If you want to climb this route with a *single 60m rope:*

Rapping P5: If your 60m rope is cut slightly long (maybe 62-64m), the rap will be almost perfect. If your 60m is exactly 60m like mine, and you are a light climber, you may find yourself 8-10 feet above the anchor.

I would suggest if you suspect you might find yourself in this situation, (1) on the way up, leave a long sling on the P4 anchor that you can fish up with your foot to give yourself extra reach; and (2) have the heaviest climber rap, fish up the sling, clip in, and downclimb first. The lighter climber can then rap and toss a tied-in cord or sling or whatever down to the anchored heavier climber and complete the downclimb as well.

Rapping P4 and P3 is fine on a single 60m.

As per comments above, P2 and P1 seem to require more downclimbing. We combined our rope with our friends' 60m for these pitches so I cannot comment. If your 60m is cut long, then I might suggest stashing your tagline or second rope on the ledge at the top of P2 to save yourself having to carry it.

(Alternatively---if the anchor for P4 were moved up about 5 feet, you could rap the upper three pitches comfortably with a 60m!) Mar 29, 2015
[Hide Comment] To avoid getting your rope stuck when rappelling pitch 2, do a very short rappel sideways to the left to another anchor just left of the chimney, and then to the top of pitch 1. I didn't heed this advice and got my ropes stuck as a reward.
Very fun climb. Last few feet of pitch 5 seemed a bit hard for 5.7. Nov 11, 2015
Jan Tarculas
San Diego, Ca
 
[Hide Comment] Did a repeat of this route this past Saturday after about 4 years ago. If you're comfortable leading 5.10 I would just bring a single rack 0.4-3 C4, set of TCUs or same size small cams and a rack of small nuts.

Build a quad since all belays are bolted Nov 15, 2015
Kush Khandelwal
San Francisco
 
[Hide Comment] Beautiful route and fantastic day soaking in the sun on a cold December day.
Rapped with a single 70.
Make sure to exercise caution pulling your rope as others have said. We almost got ours stuck! Dec 26, 2015
Andy Cao
Las Vegas, NV
 
[Hide Comment] Climbed this on Sat Jan 9, 2015. It was chilly to start, but warmed up when the sun came out. As others have mentioned, the route is in the sun the whole day.

Unfortunately, we dropped a rack of nuts (wild country offset superlights, and a few DMM offsets) on a red wild country helium carabiner. If anyone finds it please PM me. Thanks! Jan 11, 2016
SP Boston
Watertown, MA
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Beautiful climb.

Two potential hazards:

1. Many parties on the route, and upper belays are very tight. Be prepared for major traffic and pile-ups.

2. Rope pulls are tricky (our rope was stuck twice)


Advice: DO NOT link the rap from 4 to 2, even if you have long enough doubles. Just don't do it. Far too easy to get ropes stuck. Mar 11, 2016
Brad H
Las Vegas, NV
[Hide Comment] Amazing route!

Got a light blue/green 70m rope stuck on pitch 3 the night of Jan 1, 2017. (didn't see the post recommending against rapping from 4 to 2!).

Going back this morning, Jan 2 to get it. If you find it before us, there's a case of beer for you for bringing it down! Thanks

Also recommend against linking P3/4 due to high rope drag. Jan 2, 2017
Joe Forrester
Palo Alto
 
[Hide Comment] Fun in the sun climbing. Doing P6 is worth it, no more loose than any of the rest of the route (which really isn't loose at all). Easy raps, climbs really quick. Feb 14, 2017
SuneetG
New York
[Hide Comment] Climbing on Birdland today our rope got snagged on the rap down to P2. It is a blue bicolor rope. We have taped contact details onto it and would be very grateful if it It could be collected and held for us. There’s a case of beer by way of thanks to a good samaritan! Please call or text Phil at 917-445-0833. Many thanks!! Nov 10, 2017
Annie Sue
Kalispell, MT
 
[Hide Comment] Fun 5 pitches! Really chill, great pro. Nice for beginners.

Would highly recommend bringing an anchor to accommodate the high traffic of parties climbing up and rapping down. Saw several parties go directly from their daisy chain into the bolt... which makes for a huge cluster when sometimes there are 4+ people at a hanging belay!

Rapping and rope snags- agree with posts below DON'T RAP FROM 4 TO 2! We met up with Suneet & Phil's crew and experienced this first hand and in the dark heh. Thank you Remy for getting that rope down! Nov 12, 2017
Sir Camsalot
thankgodchickenhead, Ut
[Hide Comment] Got up at 6am to be hiking by 7. We were the the third party up the route and thankfully had nobody rapping over us. As we started up, parties 4-10 lined up. As we were rapping down we encountered many unhappy parties stuck at belays and even encountered 2!!!! parties of 3 fighting at the top of pitch 1 about the proper ethics of climbing routes in parties of 3. It was a shit show from start to finish. I can only imagine how unpleasant it would be to lead this route with parties rapping down next to you. If there was ever a trade route that needed a dedicated rap route 30 ft climber's right, it's this route. That being said, the route was fun. The crowd was a bitch. Nov 15, 2017
Tyson Waldron
Reno, NV
[Hide Comment] Just want to echo the need for a dedicated rap route. One that pulls cleaner and doesn't impede the already intense Conga Line factor. This is always gonna be a trade route just because of that last 30ft of the climb. It's dangerous to have so many (mostly n00bish) teams passing over each other up and down the route.

I actually thought the p3 traverse was way more engaging than the so called money pitch. The last 30ft is cool because of what it is, a narrow splitter on an otherwise blankish slab, but the climbing is short and straightforward, complete with intermediate rest stances. The traverse requires you to think about placement, has good movement, and is way more airy. Jun 14, 2018
Frank Robertson
Ridgway, CO
[Hide Comment] If you are leading P5 and there is a party at the top preparing to rap, it would really be in your interest to wait for them to clear the anchor before you start up the thin crack... maybe 5 minutes on the ledge just below the finish to avoid a belay cluster!# and potentially being brushed off. Beautiful route. Oct 20, 2018
Lian M
Las Vegas, NV
 
[Hide Comment] Fun route! My partner and I thought P2 and P3 were just as good as P5. Jan 1, 2019
Miguel D
SLC
 
[Hide Comment] A note on the rappels:
During the second rappel, you'll be looking to reach a set of anchors about 25ft directly to the right of the anchors atop P3. From these anchors, you'll rap down to the top of P2. This anchor is the only one not shared with the climbing anchors Jan 7, 2019
Ashort
Las Vegas, NV
[Hide Comment] I was told that the current descent beta is to rap spectrum to avoid clusters at the birdland belays. Are people actually doing that?

Seems to me the spectrum rap route is pretty far right of birdland and attempting to rap spectrum might get beginners into trouble. Maybe I am wrong and the spectrum raps aren't as far right as they appear. Anyone heard similar beta? Jan 28, 2019
Ryan Locati
Livingston
 
[Hide Comment] Curious about a variation of P3. From P2 belay we traversed far left on a ramp then stepped across a gully to a lone bolt and up a vertical face. Felt 10a R ish. I was able to clip the bolt while still standing on the ledge and it was the only pro for about 30ft. Despite the runout the climbing was really fun and engaging. Belayed at a nice ledge 20ft straight left of Birdland's P4 bolt anchor. Anyone know anything about this? I am very curious about this as it was actually very fun. Mar 4, 2019
natsdad
  5.8
[Hide Comment] Enjoyed this climb more than others (including Crimson Chrysalis). More variety of climbing. Better belay ledges. Good (and independent) rappel route and lots of interesting moves on good stone. I thought pitches 2 & 5 had moves that should be graded 5.8 although that is darn close to 5.7+ :) . Apr 23, 2019
Deven Lewis
Idaho falls
[Hide Comment] A very fun route did the 6th optional pitch and it didn't feel dirty nor R rated.(pg13 maybe) I'd rate it 5.6 Pitch 6 is basically choose your own adventure go left from anchors towards hollow sounding flake and traverse right till you see a varnished right facing corner with belay anchor above or climb right of anchors to 2 old bolt anchor up a juggy face to the right facing corner. ( I could see this being R rated). Also this route would be so much nicer if pitch 4,5 and 6 had a designated rap and belay anchor. Oct 14, 2019
James C
Seattle, WA
[Hide Comment] Strongly recommend a 70, not two 60s, due to ropes constantly getting stuck on the knot. Second best would be the workarounds with a sling described in the comments. Strongly concur with not rapping 4 to 2. Nov 24, 2019
Mijin K
 
[Hide Comment] There was a small crowd of climbers waiting for this when we arrived, as well as a few parties on the route already, so we climbed the first two pitches of Big Horn to bypass the traffic jam. There was no one else on Big Horn that I could see. From Big Horn, I built a trad anchor to belay my partner across a traverse over to Birdland.

My partner kindly let me lead pitch 5, which I started with great trepidation. I‘m just now coming back to climbing after several years off, and had heard from friends that the last pitch is quite heady. Climbing forums also seem to make some to-do about the pitch being difficult for the grade. This had built up something of a terrifying image in my head. However, I found it surprisingly, almost disappointingly, comfortable, and would personally rate it a flat 5.7 on the easier side of the spectrum. I actually found P3 more challenging. Regardless, the finger crack was undoubtedly a LOT of fun to lead.

I didn’t bring enough cams that were small enough, and nut placements seemed iffy, so ran out the last section to the belay bolts somewhat. Since there were a decent number of edges and divots to balance on, there wasn’t much worry about falling. The triangular step that marks the anchor station is easy to pull up onto if you use a small, shallow undercling in the bottom left corner of the triangle.

We rapped entirely on a 70m rope. Except for one snag on the third rap that required a bit of climbing up to release it, our descent went really smoothly. We had to share belay/rap bolts for much of our way up/down Birdland but all of the climbing parties were exceedingly friendly and obliging, so there was never any problem with tangling, attitudes or collisions.

All in all, this was a very enjoyable, moderate route with beautiful views. We also greatly appreciated the south-facing warmth on a 38-degree day. Nov 27, 2019
RuudVN
 
[Hide Comment] A #4 can be handy - I got mine placed on 4 of 5 pitches. Great route! Dec 30, 2019
Isaac
Portland
  5.7
[Hide Comment] The right bolt on the second pitch anchor was wiggling a bit. Looks like someone did some work to shore it up, but maybe it’s time for a new bolt all together? Feb 5, 2020
Meg A
 
[Hide Comment] Lots of birds. ;)
Swallows, ravens, and hummingbirds all came by and checked us out.
In all seriousness, all the beta is here. But the top pitches are “the temperature of the surface of the sun” as my climbing partner put it, if the forecast is over 80 degrees. I have burn blisters from hot shoes to prove it. But you’ll get the route to yourself. (All the smarter folk know not to be in the sun. Facepalm). The climb is totally worth it though.
Rap rings have been added on top of pitch 4, and 3.
Easy for a 5.7. Oct 6, 2020
Elena Su
Mountain View, CA
 
[Hide Comment] I was looking for a crack route but this one is more face climbing. It will be easier with a pair of shoes that have good edging. The 3rd pitch is my favorite. This route is in the sun in the morning, so good for winter days. For some of the anchors, there are two sets of anchors, so it is easy to rappel. When I rappelled with a 70m rope, I almost ran out of rope for the 2nd and first pitch(we didn't find the exact middle mark), so be carefull! Dec 10, 2020
Andrew Bock
Burlington, VT
[Hide Comment] A fun variation to avoid crowds if you don’t mind 5.easy R climbing: Climb the first pitch as usual, then move up and right into the second pitch of valore for an awesome finger(ish) crack through a steep headwall.

(The first pitch of valore is a nightmare of loose rock, but the second pitch is cleaning up nicely and has some great movement and good gear)

Then continue straight up through the weakness toward an anchor. (Now you’re on tinkerbellefuss) From this anchor you can either go straight up (5.7R) or continue along the cracks to the right as described in the Route discription 5.8R?). We went straight up, the climbing was really pleasant but there was no gear for 40 feet above the anchor. Easy climbing though. These two can be easily linked with a 70 since it’s a straight line.

And then you’re at the base of the birdland money pitch! Essentially you’re climbing the designated rap route. Felt nice and direct. Dec 31, 2020
Kyle Robison
Colorado
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Amazing route! I liked everything, but P2, P3 and P5 are excellent. Cool varied climbing with a bit of spice on the thin traverse on P3 and the last couple moves of the finger crack on P5.

Seems like a super popular route, so be prepared for some traffic. We rapped with 1 70m just fine but make sure it’s right at the middle mark and knot the ends. Consider keeping the rope coiled with you when you rap if you can and be careful pulling because there’s lots of spots to get it stuck. Jan 25, 2021
[Hide Comment] Awesome route. Maybe my new favorite multi-pitch in the park. We got lucky. Got to the base of the climb just before 9am. One party ahead of us already on the route. Minimal waiting. Beautiful weather, 75 sunny w/ a little breeze. Perfect day. Oct 15, 2021
Tatiana APD
Sacramento, CA
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] This nearly entirely a face climbing route. I jammed maybe twice and only out of choice, not necessity. There also isn't a "finger crack" on the last pitch--it's more like a tiny seam that you touch occasionally while face climbing. My partner and I agreed that P5 was less inspiring than P3. If you're looking for crack climbing, this isn't the route.

On your second rap, you can go to a separate set of rings straight below you, avoiding having to traverse to climber's left where the belay for the top of P3 is. You won't see them until you rap over a lip, but it's there. Nov 12, 2021
Keith Boone
Henderson, NV
 
[Hide Comment] I swear this is the busiest route in red rocks. 16 people crowded on 5 pitches on a Wednesday Dec 22, 2021
Ellie S.
San Jose, CA
  5.8
[Hide Comment] I brought a 60m rope thinking it was a 70m (now I know) and it was really not a fun rap. I would highly recommend against it, we only made it down because another group offered to do a double rope rappel.

Spicy moments for me was the traverse on p3 which I ran out and in retrospect I shouldn't have because then if my follower fell, she'd swing quite a bit. It wasn't hard but it was very intimidating. The last 15 feet to the p5 anchor also was slabby with no obviously good holds for feet or hands so it was pretty committing.

Overall I had an absolute blast - the climbing was interesting, varied, and the gear placement was plentiful. This is a great one for new followers as a first mp route. Feb 1, 2022
Stefani
Las Vegas, NV
 
[Hide Comment] IMHO Birdland totally lives up to the hype. If you want super helpful photos and beta for each pitch, and beta for the rappel down and dealing with crowds. climbonmaps.com/birdland.html FYI, you need a 70 m, 60's are too short for the rappels and skipping rappels with two 60s is not really an option either. If you are using two 60s you will need to tie the ropes together, but still rappel each pitch. Combining pitches is not recommended - too much traversing and zig-zagging. Feb 9, 2022
Raj Topiwala
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Don't get psyched out about the last section of P5. There are feet, though they aren't so obvious. There's only two moves for the crux and you'll be through it and celebrating a successful send before you know it. Same goes for the P3 slab traverse. A lil spooky, but everything you need is there! Mar 10, 2022
Alixius Roosenitus
Little Rock, AR
 
[Hide Comment] My first multi pitch trad lead on December 22 2022. Total blast. I led pitches 1, 2 and 4 and followed the rest. A couple exposed/spooky moves around pitch 3 if I remember correctly. We were second in line, party in front of us had a slow start. It got crowded on the rappel and we had to hang out on our anchors for a while to wait to come down. Great day finished off with Physical Graffiti afterwards Mar 10, 2022
Clara Leonard
Nashville, TN
 
[Hide Comment] Double 70m ropes allow you to link the rappels from p4 anchors to p2, and then all the way to the ground from there. Although you are taking a 50/50 shot that nothing gets stuck pulling them down................. Apr 1, 2022
Kenan Tezer
Camarillo CA
 
[Hide Comment] You never know. Climbed on a Monday starting at 7:30 and no one on the route before, during or after. Awesome route.

Looking at the pictures seems many climb below the bolt on the 3rd pitch and then climb up to the steep crack. Watching videos though and reading comments many also climb above the bolt and traverse into the crack using underclings. I climbed beneath the bolt and the moves past it weren't hard but then moving up and inserting into the crack presented a couple + moves. Is one way considered the proper or conventional way to go? Apr 25, 2022
Harris Kashtan
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] Really fun climbing with the only downside being the massive crowds and cluster that usually results if you aren't the first group up and people start rappelling down on you. Would definitely recommend if you are gonna be the first group up, otherwise would look for another route. May 8, 2022
sean w
Seattle, WA
[Hide Comment] Brought a BD #3 and didn't use it. Rack from tips to BD #2, with some doubles in the smaller-medium sizes as well as a healthy set of nuts would be plenty. Bring some alpine draws for the more wandery / traversing pitches. Nov 15, 2022
[Hide Comment] Busy weekend day (work during the week, so our only option):

5 parties in front of us (including 2 parties of 3), 3 parties behind us. Left the parking lot at 8am, got back at 4pm. Hike was ~1hr, waiting to climb ~1hr (used this time to go to the bathroom, eat, get racked, etc, so only felt like a little wait), climbing took about 3.5hrs, rappelling with one 70m (so 5 raps) took ~1hr, clean up and rest/take a break, then 45min hike back.

We were able to pass a party of 3, which helped keep the path in front of us clear. Belay stations got crowded at the top of 1 and 2, but climbing pitch 3 slowed the party behind us way down, so we had the rest of the route to ourselves, and no one at any rappels on the way down (I think one party bailed after us, and two parties were at the top of 3/starting 4).

I'm a 5.7 leader, so appreciated a triple rack .3-.5, doubles .75-#2, and a few #4s on pitch 2. Led pitch 1 - great warm up to get back into the game, but easily several grades easier than the other pitches. Led pitch 2 - it was super awesome and unique. Led pitch 3 - it was terrifying. I placed a piece above the bolt in a slot to get a bit higher of a catch should I fall - I swear once you just make a move above the jugs you'll be fine, but definitely an experience for sure. Glad I had it while I'm still not a good climber, so could get the full experience. Then followed the rest of the route for a chill ride to the top.

Biggest complaint of the whole route is that you really can't sit at the top and take in your accomplishment before heading down, since it's a tight hanging belay (with a little step to stand on). Didn't bother with pitch 6 based on comments, but wondering if that one would've given us a chance to take it in.

Overall, if you don't rush to be first and are climbing on a weekend, expect it to take all day, but that you'll still get the full experience in just fine. Super awesome route, really glad to have led some of the pitches. Nov 21, 2022
Sandy Dash
Beaverton, OR
[Hide Comment] Birdland and Cat in the Hat Linkup TR with pictures of each pitch and stats for approach are here: dashertonclimbs.com/2023/12…. We did Dark Shadows the following day but we had known where to go for Dark Shadows, we could have easily linked that up as well for an awesome dawn to dusk climbing experience. Dark Shadows TR here : dashertonclimbs.com/2023/12… Dec 5, 2023
Ryan A
Highland Park, NJ
[Hide Comment] P2 eats #4s, and I think #5 and #6 would be helpful too if you want the easiest placements. I bumped and backcleaned my #4 multiple times. I kept waiting for the .75 splitter but it never came… I’d say don’t save your green cams for it. I’d also suggest letting your follower carry those cams for the remaining pitches Dec 16, 2023
Michael Parker
Belgrade, MT
  5.7+
[Hide Comment] UPDATED RAP BETA

There are 2 alternate rap stations that you can use while rappelling which keeps your rap in a straight line and avoids crowding belay ledges at top of P2 and P3.

With a 70m rope you can do the following:
#1: Rap from P5 anchors to P4 anchors
#2: Rap from P4 anchors straight down to rap station approximately 30ft right of P3 anchor.
#3: Rap from rap station down to a big ledge (32m rap). From the ledge, walk around the ledge to the face and you'll see another set of anchors.
#4: Rap from rap station on big ledge to P1 anchors
#5: Rap from P1 anchors to the ground Mar 5, 2024
jefe Moab
Moab
[Hide Comment] Climbed years ago and repeated yesterday. Was super psyched to see independent rap anchors to the right of the bolted belays on all pitches except for the top of 5 where you rap off the bolts at the tight belay stance there. As you head up, look for the new rap stations, so you know where to find them on the way down. The rap stations for P3 and P1 are both to the right. The others are very close to the climber's anchors. We were 3rd in line yesterday and were fortunate to be following solid climbers, so with the new rap stations everybody flowed up and down nicely. Felt like we were first on the route. Thanks to the folks who put these up! Mar 21, 2024
Oliver
Las Vegas, NV
[Hide Comment] Birdland - Interactive 360°: go.ibex.fit/mp Oct 23, 2024
Clay Maranville
Ypsilanti, MI
 
[Hide Comment] Climbed this on a Monday and it was waaay crowded, but lives up to its reputation as a classic, especially P3 & P5. Climbing parties on every pitch going up and going down (counted 8 parties on the wall, including us, but not the 3 parties waiting at the base to start the route), but barely any delays. The new rap anchors made everything smooth with a 70m. The party just behind us had a 60m and we had to help them downclimb 5 ft to us on rap #3. The new rap beta is well-described by Mr. Parker. Nov 10, 2024
Lord Beandon
Hell
  5.7
[Hide Comment] Perfect little afternoon romper. Linked pitches 1+2 and 3+4 with an 80. You can lead it very safely with a single rack and set of small nuts, no brassies needed. Would be a great route for someone's first lead imo. Dec 8, 2024
[Hide Comment] a double rope rap with two 70ms will get you to the ground from the top of p2 Jan 5, 2025
[Hide Comment] Actually on Birdland it can be more time efficient, not to mention comfortable, for the leader to climb the fifth pitch and lower off, cleaning as he/she lowers, and then top rope belay his/her follower(s) up that pitch and then quickly lower them back down. This avoids both the hassle of having to belay from the uncomfortable anchor at the top of the fifth pitch and the need to transition to rappel at that uncomfortable anchor and rap down the fifth pitch - possibly throwing your ropes, rapping, and then pulling your ropes right on top of another leader coming up the pitch (or having to wait so as not to interfere with another leader). Once the party is back at the base of the fifth, all they have to do is pull their rope - simultaneously threading through the anchor down the fourth pitch - and *both* anchors are quickly cleared.

I've done it this way countless times guiding and it is logical and fast and saves both my party and other parties below time and grief. The stance at the base of the fifth pitch easily accommodates 4-5 people whereas the fully hanging belay atop the fifth barely accommodates one.

I wasn't there with you and don't know what exactly transpired, in all likelihood it could still have been a circus, and it would certainly be insensistive for these parties to run multiple laps on the pitch, but based on your comment it is possible that they were actually doing the smart thing even though it might be different than your belief about how things "should" happen.

Regardless of exactly what went down there is one indisputable fact: If you don't like waiting for other parties ahead of you, you can always get there earlier. Jan 13, 2025
Mike Farthing
Acadia, ME
[Hide Comment] Great route! Save enough small gear and draws for the top of P5. Although it looks like it gobbles everything, I found the crux tips-crack a little fiddly with gear, but definitely the highlight of the route! At a similar grade and length in the area I think Olive Oil is slightly more fun and adventurous. Mar 23, 2025
[Hide Comment] Left new pair of TC pros at base on 11/24. would love to trade a bottle of whiskey for their return. 970-729-0942 Nov 26, 2025