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The ever changing torque specifications of bolts

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Brandon R · · CA · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 223

Depending on when you look, the torque specs for any given bolt have changed, not insignificantly, over the years. For those in the know, is this because of some change to the bolts themselves, or is this solely due to changing knowledge/testing/data? 

Gene Bordson · · San Diego · Joined Sep 2024 · Points: 0

I thought it was always two uggas of torque, or guten-tight specs for the german hardware. Seriously interesting question though.

Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

You have to be more specific, do you mean climbing bolts or just bolts in general?

ClimbBaja · · sandy Eggo · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 116

I can think of two such examples. The first was the case of the published installation torque specs for the Rawl/Powers "Power-Bolt" aka: "5-piece", in 3/8" carbon steel. Some bolts snapped upon installation with a torque wrench at the manufacturer's 35 ft-lb torque spec. It required a few discussions with their engineering department to persuade them to revise their published torque value downward to 20 lb-ft. Any automotive mechanic should have recognized that 35 ft-lb is far too high for the 5/16" diameter, grade 5 carbon steel, inner bolt. I can only guess that someone in the company didn't realize that the 3/8" nominal anchor diameter had a skinny internal bolt and chose a torque value more appropriate to a 3/8" grade 5 machine bolt.. Here's one of my old posts:   

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2927238&msg=2928033#msg2928033 

The other example is that the published torque specs were reduced by another manufacturer for their stainless steel anchors. Torque values for stainless steel are considerably less than for hardened (grade 5) carbon steel.  It was the Powers 3/8" SS "Power-Bolt" which had torque values reduced. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=277206&msg=280136#msg280136 

 

timothy fisher · · CHARLOTTE · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 30

Dewalt / Powers actually increased the torque spec recently for the SS 3/8 and 1/2 bolts. A small amount...

Brandon R · · CA · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 223

I've seen SS 3/8 5-piece as low as 10 ft-lbs and now 18 ft-lbs. That's an 80% increase in torque!

Brian · · North Kingstown, RI · Joined Sep 2001 · Points: 799

It has been 28 ft lbs for SS Powers 3/8" wedge bolts for a long time. At least  20 years.

timothy fisher · · CHARLOTTE · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 30

I left out that i was refering to SS "5 piece" bolts.

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