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Edelrid Literider Ledge?

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Mike Larson · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined May 2006 · Points: 70

Anybody have experience with this? After years of borrowing/renting ledges, I'm finally ready to lay down for my own. Having used quite a few, I know the D4 still sets the standard, and especially with Skot manufacturing it now, that's likely my default option.

But Edelrid's ledge looks pretty sweet. I'll be in Europe next month and will have a chance to pick one up, but am keen to hear folk's thoughts on it before I consider it alongside the D4. Apparently Edelrid also now makes a "Literider Pro" version, which seems to be a slightly beefier version with reinforcements on the wall side. Edelrid isn't distributing these in the states so if I'm going to grab one I'd need to do it when I'm across the pond.

Anyone seen or used these in the wild? Where's Phil Westenberger when you need him? 

EJN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2012 · Points: 274

I just used one on a photo shoot, not sure if it was the newest version. It is very light, and about as straightforward as an ledge to put together, though the D4 is a bit easier. However, with two people standing on it the ledge did flex a surprising amount. Also, the dyneema fabric is very sensitive to abrasion from sand and grit on shoes, which can wear a hole in the floor. I did like that the straps can separate, so you can hang it from two different bolts, making it a more stable platform. Just my two cents. Again, I didn't sleep on it, just stood on it for rigging purposes.

Skot Richards · · Lakewood, CA · Joined May 2020 · Points: 0

My version of the D4 will have suspension straps that can also be separated. When not using the fly of course.  

Sam Skovgaard · · Port Angeles, WA · Joined Oct 2017 · Points: 208

Mmmmm, split suspension straps.  Why did it take us so long to figure that one out?

Mike Larson · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined May 2006 · Points: 70

Skot have you laid eyes on one of these Edelrids? I know you're a self-interested party, but I'm just trying to see if they have any advantages over your new version of the D4 besides weight. You can rest assured I'll probably end up buying from you, but I want to do my due diligence before a major outlay like this. 

old5ten · · Sunny Slopes + Berkeley, CA · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 5,861

got a chance to look at one at the alpinmesse in Innsbruck 11/24.  struck me as a basic ledge in terms of design, with the main advantage being weight because of the materials.

Skot Richards · · Lakewood, CA · Joined May 2020 · Points: 0
Mike Larson wrote:

Skot have you laid eyes on one of these Edelrids? I know you're a self-interested party, but I'm just trying to see if they have any advantages over your new version of the D4 besides weight. You can rest assured I'll probably end up buying from you, but I want to do my due diligence before a major outlay like this. 

I haven’t studied it at any great length.  But I have seen them and they have some cool materials.  
Im openly biased but it looks more like a light and free kind of product,  it didn’t strike me as a hard aid wall ledge.   

I definitely would never consider flagging one.  

Where as my ledge I’ll flag the entire route season after season.  
Their ledge will definitely be lighter than mine , but my ledge will definitely out last theirs in real world wall climbing situations.  And I have zero knowledge about their offerings but I seriously doubt you’d be able to get replacement suspension or bed from them should something happen to yours and need replacing. 

Every component of my ledges will be replaceable and available from me.   

Mike Larson · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined May 2006 · Points: 70
Skot Richards wrote:

I haven’t studied it at any great length.  But I have seen them and they have some cool materials.  
Im openly biased but it looks more like a light and free kind of product,  it didn’t strike me as a hard aid wall ledge.   

I definitely would never consider flagging one.  

Where as my ledge I’ll flag the entire route season after season.  
Their ledge will definitely be lighter than mine , but my ledge will definitely out last theirs in real world wall climbing situations.  And I have zero knowledge about their offerings but I seriously doubt you’d be able to get replacement suspension or bed from them should something happen to yours and need replacing. 

Every component of my ledges will be replaceable and available from me.   

I was already sold on your version of the D4, and this just sold me more. Can't wait till they're available.

Skot Richards · · Lakewood, CA · Joined May 2020 · Points: 0

I have some deposits placed already and should have a handful of ledges ready in a couple weeks.  

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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