Anyone into Sewing?

Pink corduroy chalk bucket i made for my wife last night. Cool sparkly fleece inside

rock climbing wrote:

https://youtu.be/-4YzzHRu5cA?si=cR_hzdqkrzDdgjQk

The specific process you are looking for is called darning. This was used primarily to fix socks BITD, but would be well suited to this task. What you are basically doing is weaving layers of thread over the hole without pulling the hole tight. There are even people who create intricate designs over the holes. I am not one of those people.

The downside is most machines are not suited to this task. I would find a lightbulb and basically "spiderweb" across the holes. There is also a nifty Japanese method of repairing fabrics that would be well suited to these spots, but the name of the style escapes me.

For a machine that is new, a 3 point zig zag would be ideal, or a zig zag with a double needle. Most new machines come with a double needle in a little envelope.

There's so much stretch in that waffle fabric that I doubt putting a straight stitch is really a problem.

Metolius Ultralight Mailbag. USPS Tyvek mailer because y'know, it helps you "send". Hilarious. 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/al-opyTDwaE

Yo! Has anyone used liteskin 07 or 21 fabric for their climbing packs? All the internet info is a few years old so wondering if there's some more long term testing that's happened

Isaaq Q wrote:

Yo! Has anyone used liteskin 07 or 21 fabric for their climbing packs? All the internet info is a few years old so wondering if there's some more long term testing that's happened

I used LS21 in a pack I made years ago (mtn flyer pattern). Loaded it with a full rack, later found tons of micro puncture holes in it. Never used it again. There are so many better fabrics out there now. LS 07/21 was really popular like 6 years ago because it looked cool. I'd pass on it. What are you making?

Max R wrote:

I used LS21 in a pack I made years ago (mtn flyer pattern). Loaded it with a full rack, later found tons of micro puncture holes in it. Never used it again. There are so many better fabrics out there now. LS 07/21 was really popular like 6 years ago because it looked cool. I'd pass on it. What are you making?

Would just be another one of these 45L packs I've made, currently using plain ol nylon. Always wondering if fancy fabrics would be much better and so far decided no...

Isaaq Q wrote:

Would just be another one of these 45L packs I've made, currently using plain ol nylon. Always wondering if fancy fabrics would be much better and so far decided no...

There are lesser expensive 'fancy fabrics' that you might find better. VX 21, or some of the Challenge Ultra fabrics aren't too pricy. 

All the laminate fabrics have essentially no stretch, they will tend to form rigid points, then those points will abrade faster than a more flexible fabric.

For applications where you want the fabric to be inherently water resistant due to an actual plastic film, and/or you want a stiffer fabric that may help the bag stay open on its on when loading, they are nice. For UL hiking, you can go light fabrics like VX21, and even lighter... but for cragging you want to be considering heavier fabrics, and even then they will get small holes fast... but the bulk of the material will be water resistant still.

Desert Rock Sports wrote:

All the laminate fabrics have essentially no stretch, they will tend to form rigid points, then those points will abrade faster than a more flexible fabric.

For applications where you want the fabric to be inherently water resistant due to an actual plastic film, and/or you want a stiffer fabric that may help the bag stay open on its on when loading, they are nice. For UL hiking, you can go light fabrics like VX21, and even lighter... but for cragging you want to be considering heavier fabrics, and even then they will get small holes fast... but the bulk of the material will be water resistant still.

Agree with all the above.

Technically the best way to make a crag pack without using haul bag material(vinyl) is to use three layers.
Outer-300D-ish Nylon/ripstop poly (mini diamond RS etc)

Middle-1/16” or thinner foam layer

Inner-100-200D Nylon or poly taffeta, or uncoated 70D nylon ripstop

If you look at the bottoms of BD Speed packs, their construction follows this. The single layer body is always worn out with holes/rips because of the pointy/hard bits of gear that create wear points. Even if you made the whole outer pack out of RS coated oxford(200 weight) and used the same 3 layer method you’d have a more (generally) durable pack than a single layer of 1000D Cordura. Inner fabric needs to be uncoated to not capture moisture. The foam changes all the pokey/hard edged gear into butter knives instead of steak knives.

The stuff in the pack can’t degrade the urethane layer of the outer, and rips/tears outside don’t propagate because they are supported by the layers. G7 backpacks are made this way, and use a little fancier outer urethane fabric. The system of layers is where their durability comes from, not some mythical fabric. IIUC, their fabric sandwich is “laminated” which just makes it easier for manufacturers to make the things. 

Anyone got any beta on making pants speciffically? Patterns/resources/tips?

I’ve had success sewing jackets/hoodies, but wondering where to look for some info about pant making. Kind of tired of wearing the same old stuff and interested in making my own and experimenting with materials.

Is it better to use a serger on pants? Seems like it would make finishing easier/more straightforward but I have only used single needle machines previously so any thoughts or tips are very welcome.

Thanks!

learnmyog.com has a pattern for some sweat pants that i’ve made from grid fleece. Could probably modify them to be technical pants. Also i think the pattern company Green Pepper has pants patterns.

Typically a serger is the way to go for all clothing in my opinion. Strongest stretchiest stitch there is. 

Yawn Bosco wrote:

Anyone got any beta on making pants speciffically? Patterns/resources/tips?

I found the "Trousers from scratch" series on YouTube super helpful when I was learning to make pants. 

The series takes you from pattern to finished product for a pair of dress pants. Even though it's focused on dress pants, the techniques would all still be very relevant to something more outdoor-oriented. The vids are extremely detailed, and may be too much detail depending on your level of skill/experience. But, it's also cut up into 20 segments, so you could easily skip anything you didn't think was relevant. 

Thanks Chris and Max, a lot of stuff for me to check out here!

I wanted to point out that John Middendorf’s ledge designs are open source-which is how I started building portaledges!

His style of patterns has its own language, but making a ledge and fly is not insane. Its doable. We might start a Youtube Series on how to make them. 

If you need the block corners, we are selling those in sets of 4 for $50/set. 

https://bigwalls.net/a5-portaledge-design.html

Yawn Bosco wrote:

Anyone got any beta on making pants speciffically? Patterns/resources/tips?

I’ve had success sewing jackets/hoodies, but wondering where to look for some info about pant making. Kind of tired of wearing the same old stuff and interested in making my own and experimenting with materials.

Is it better to use a serger on pants? Seems like it would make finishing easier/more straightforward but I have only used single needle machines previously so any thoughts or tips are very welcome.

Thanks!

Technically pants are just a shirt for the legs, so however you finish your hoodies/shirts is the same. A serger is nice, but Green Pepper patterns usually gives instructions assuming you have a domestic that does all those other funny stitches.

Pants have this strange technique where you put one leg in the other right sides together. Its fun, it is outlined on Green Pepper’s jumpsuit pattern. 

We have a domestic serger we use to make some lightweight bags, and sure its nice but not like $400 nice to make some pants. A newer domestic does all that you just change thread more and it goes slower. I forget why we bought it but it comes it handy on certain projects and has saved a lot of time. 

What you probably want but didn’t know you wanted is a double sided coverstitch machine, that makes the pro hoodie/athletic wear stitches instead of the straight stitch top/cover stitch bottom. There is only one domestic model that does this (Brother Cv3550) and IIRC might also work as a serger? Maybe. For 850 freedom dollars, you can probably make enough sun hoodies/fleece tops/Yoga pants to send yourself to college/Chamonix.  Might hate life once you realize how much bigger an industrial machine is, but that is the ticket to badass clothing. 

Yawn Bosco wrote:

Anyone got any beta on making pants speciffically? Patterns/resources/tips?

I’ve had success sewing jackets/hoodies, but wondering where to look for some info about pant making. Kind of tired of wearing the same old stuff and interested in making my own and experimenting with materials.

Is it better to use a serger on pants? Seems like it would make finishing easier/more straightforward but I have only used single needle machines previously so any thoughts or tips are very welcome.

Thanks!

My friend has used this pattern a couple of times and has been really happy with the results:
https://www.instagram.com/reel

Pattern:
https://www.etsy.com

A couple things i’ve made recently.

A 30ish liter day bag for my wife. (So she can carry more of my gear ;) And a multipitch snack bag.

Hey all, wondering if anyone has made a pair of pants similar to the M10 from patagucci. They are way too short for my lanky legs but I really really liked the fit everywhere else. Anyone got measurements or ideas of how to make myself a bit of a copycat? I've tried to make a couple of pairs with muslin but they just aren't the same.

The alice Palace wrote:

Hey all, wondering if anyone has made a pair of pants similar to the M10 from patagucci. They are way too short for my lanky legs but I really really liked the fit everywhere else. Anyone got measurements or ideas of how to make myself a bit of a copycat? I've tried to make a couple of pairs with muslin but they just aren't the same.

If you don’t mind the funny look of it, how about just adding some extra cuff to the legs of a pair of M10s?   I’m lanky for my waist size, too, and I have done something like that a few times.  

Josh wrote:

If you don’t mind the funny look of it, how about just adding some extra cuff to the legs of a pair of M10s?   I’m lanky for my waist size, too, and I have done something like that a few times.  

Don't give me excuses not to commit to my master plan!! But also how would you do that neatly with the cuffs?