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RMNP SAR Laid Off

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Long Ranger · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 669

Can anyone confirm that RMNP no longer has a SAR team? I assume this means ALL Climbing Rangers have been fired? If so, this is terrible news! 

https://theclimbingmajority.com/87-unforgotten-lives-unseen-lines-w-maximilian-barlerin/

Just days before this episode launch, I learned that Max and his entire team of rangers had been laid off due to recent federal budget cuts—a devastating blow, especially for those who relied on the job not just for income, but for housing. The outdoor community is certainly hurting right now, and my heart goes out to everyone affected. Max reminds us that this is not a good year to get injured in the mountains—there just might not be anyone there to rescue you.

Steve Williams · · The state of confusion · Joined Jul 2005 · Points: 235

Lay off Mump!!!

Michael Spiesbach · · Boulder, CO · Joined May 2014 · Points: 135

bumping in case anyone else has info?

curt86iroc · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 274
Matthew Tangeman · · SW Colorado · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,113

On a related note, does anyone have insight into layoff impacts on the Black Canyon? I heard the Black Canyon NP laid off ~11 employees or something like that.

jackscoldsweat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 15

the rebellious climber's attitude towards leo has certainly changed over the years.

i personally am okay w/ the idea that i'm not gonna be saved when i set off on an adventure in the backcountry/park. a true adventure awaits! no excuse for not being prepared when going into the mountains. regardless, sheet hits the fan. ce la vie! consider it a reemergence of a golden age perhaps?
don't care about dump and his crew. don't care for either side of the fence. we're in an awful situation and have been for some time.

i'm getting old.

to each their own.

'skooos out fo summa!'

jcs

i should add. if guberment has taught me anything, it's self reliance. 

Creed Archibald · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,026
jackscoldsweat wrote:

the rebellious climber's attitude towards leo has certainly changed over the years.

i personally am okay w/ the idea that i'm not gonna be saved when i set off on an adventure in the backcountry/park. a true adventure awaits! no excuse for not being prepared when going into the mountains. regardless, sheet hits the fan. ce la vie! consider it a reemergence of a golden age perhaps?
don't care about dump and his crew. don't care for either side of the fence. we're in an awful situation and have been for some time.

i'm getting old.

to each their own.

'skooos out fo summa!'

jcs

i should add. if guberment has taught me anything, it's self reliance. 

That’s awesome. I look forward to hearing more about how you plan to eschew social security and Medicare in your retirement years.  

Long Ranger · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 669
jackscoldsweat wrote:

i personally am okay w/ the idea that i'm not gonna be saved when i set off on an adventure in the backcountry/park. 

Ken Tubbs · · Eugene, OR · Joined Sep 2018 · Points: 1
jackscoldsweat wrote:


i personally am okay w/ the idea that i'm not gonna be saved when i set off on an adventure in the backcountry/park.

Have you asked those who love you if they feel this way?

Perhaps they are fine with it...

jackscoldsweat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 15
Creed Archibald wrote:

That’s awesome. I look forward to hearing more about how you plan to eschew social security and Medicare in your retirement years.  

Anyone counting on SS or Medicare in their future is folly. Yesterdays solutions are tomorrows problems.
You of all should know this. You were raised to know better.
good luck to you too.

do you remember that kid @ erock falling down into that 'cavern'? how banged up he was and how your heart ached and yearned to be able to help get him out right there and then? you wanted to act! however, someone had to make a call and wait. that waiting was torturous for everyone involved. everyone did the best they could considering the situation. afterwards, you made a note/vow to learn the skills you needed to help yourself and others if anything like that were to ever happened again. you have a huge heart and are a good man. i admire that. Your charity has never failed anyone.

btw, hows the famillia Creed? Hope Aubrey and crew are well? Be safe and keep crushing good sir!

jcs

jackscoldsweat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 15
Ken Tubbs wrote:

Have you asked those who love you if they feel this way?

Perhaps they are fine with it...

Anyone who ventures in to such is self indulgent. Knowing who i was and am is part of their journey too. i am not the same person i was when i was 20. 

perhaps they are.

jcs

jackscoldsweat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 15
Long Ranger wrote:

Such a fantastic movie. Lithgow is a personal fav of mine.

"a man has GOT to know his limitations!"~Clint Eastwood
jcs

Long Ranger · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 669

Well in other news, post limits have been removed on the forum.

Climbing Weasel · · Massachusetts · Joined May 2022 · Points: 0
Long Ranger wrote:

Well in other news, post limits have been removed on the forum.

Whaaaat

Creed Archibald · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,026
jackscoldsweat wrote:

Anyone counting on SS or Medicare in their future is folly. Yesterdays solutions are tomorrows problems.
You of all should know this. You were raised to know better.
good luck to you too.

do you remember that kid @ erock falling down into that 'cavern'? how banged up he was and how your heart ached and yearned to be able to help get him out right there and then? you wanted to act! however, someone had to make a call and wait. that waiting was torturous for everyone involved. everyone did the best they could considering the situation. afterwards, you made a note/vow to learn the skills you needed to help yourself and others if anything like that were to ever happened again. you have a huge heart and are a good man. i admire that. Your charity has never failed anyone.

btw, hows the famillia Creed? Hope Aubrey and crew are well? Be safe and keep crushing good sir!

jcs

Well now I have no idea who I'm talking trash with, haha, but since you clearly know me, the family is doing well! Aubrey and I just had a second son. Not much climbing at the moment, but hopefully we'll get back on the rocks later this Spring/Summer. 

In terms of SAR, yes, that team at E-Rock was super incompetent. The team leader insisted on building an anchor with his shiny cams instead of rapping off a gigantic tree next to the hole, but that isn't the case in the busier western parks like RMNP. I had to participate in another rescue in LCC and another in Maple. Both of those SAR teams had their shit dialed, and cutting those people in the name of "government efficiency" is a major mistake. The preservation and management of public land is one of the most important functions of the federal government for me. (That's what killed me about living in Oklahoma: no public land, and public land is the poor man's private land.) As for the future of SS and Medicare, we'll see. I'm trying to find faith that our union can survive Trump and Musk, but I lean towards pessimism. 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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