New TRS device

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

Picked up mine when I went onsite to work today. (I live in Oakland so home delivery isn't really a thing) So it's a real thing and everything. Unfortunately I worked a full day and won't be able to play with it until tomorrow evening at the earliest 

Damn that is a nice looking doohickey. Excited to see what everyone thinks. 

So who wants to sell their goblin, lift or taz luv3?

Pm me :)

Considering picking one of these up. My current setup is a lift held at chest height (good) with a ropeman 2 backup (ok, not great). Can anyone see the Sulu and the Lift fighting each other with the Sulu on bottom or any other issues?

Dan W wrote:

Considering picking one of these up. My current setup is a lift held at chest height (good) with a ropeman 2 backup (ok, not great). Can anyone see the Sulu and the Lift fighting each other with the Sulu on bottom or any other issues?

Honest question - why not put the sulu on one rope strand and the lift on the other strand?

Cosmic Hotdog wrote:

Honest question - why not put the sulu on one rope strand and the lift on the other strand?

because two strands sort of sucks?

PWZ wrote:

because two strands sort of sucks?

Despite the extreme magnitude of detail you've provided, I'm still curious as to why you feel that way

Cosmic Hotdog wrote:

Despite the extreme magnitude of detail you've provided, I'm still curious as to why you feel that way

More ropes hanging in front of you, more weight you need to carry solo

Jared AE wrote:

More ropes hanging in front of you, more weight you need to carry solo

Yeah that's fair. I look at it as the tiniest bit more redundant but realistically that's just something I tell myself for the warm and fuzzies

Jared AE wrote:

More ropes hanging in front of you, more weight you need to carry solo

pretty much this. If I already trust a single rope and a belayer to fall on lead, sitting down on a microtrax shouldn't give me the heebie jeebies.

PWZ wrote:

because two strands sort of sucks?

I have a short rope for TRS and while that would work for most of the short cliffs I'm on, I occasionally need the whole length. And I generally prefer using a single strand and that's realistically what I'll probably continue doing. It seems silly relegating the Sulu to backup status but I'm still curious if there's any concern with the way the two devices would interact.

PWZ wrote:

because two strands sort of sucks?

I disagree. I put both my devices on one strabd but if I have enough spare rope I’ll keep the other strand hanging down because if I want to escape the system, slapping my grigri on the spare strand is 100x easier and safer than making a footloop with a prusik/sling and deweighting my lift.

#1799 arrived today

Did some testing in the basement stairwell, it takes very little weight on the bottom of the rope to get it to trail. Descending is very smooth, takes a little effort to start moving, nice for no sudden release like other devices, and can easily use either hand on the handle. A chest harness tender attached to the connector still allow it to trail easily.

Tried two 6mm cords, it would only pinch one of them, the two bearing surfaces only touch along the front edge, leaving a gap on the back edge.

The handle is bent inward and rubs the rope when going to use it, and the spring is very strong, returns to resting spot with a loud bang.

Anybody who's received theirs able to comment on it for LRS?

Order #1977 here (hasn't shipped yet)

Got mine coupe days ago, but am finally home to use is.
I'll be taking it out to TRS, and some LRS. I'll give a synopsis later. Pretty slick device thus far, insanely quick to grab.

FYI for folks planning on using this for top rope solo, there has been a report of it failing to engage due to getting trapped between the user's legs in a fall when used without some sort of harness or lanyard to hold it up. The climber was caught by their second-strand backup.

I got mine a few days ago, played around a bit on a short test line at my house, and was able to reproduce this case. This reinforces my original plan to always use it held up, and also have some sort of backup. (Stopper knots, second rope & device, back-up knots, etc)

Malcolm Jarvis wrote:

FYI for folks planning on using this for top rope solo, there has been a report of it failing to engage due to getting trapped between the user's legs in a fall when used without some sort of harness or lanyard to hold it up. The climber was caught by their second-strand backup.

Care to provide a link to where you read about this? Is it the TRS group on Fb? If so plz provide a screenshot as I'm not in it. 

Malcolm Jarvis wrote:

FYI for folks planning on using this for top rope solo, there has been a report of it failing to engage due to getting trapped between the user's legs in a fall when used without some sort of harness or lanyard to hold it up. The climber was caught by their second-strand backup.

I got mine a few days ago, played around a bit on a short test line at my house, and was able to reproduce this case. This reinforces my original plan to always use it held up, and also have some sort of backup. (Stopper knots, second rope & device, back-up knots, etc)

Same failure point as taz lov 2 & 3

These failures make me think it wouldn't be great to pair with a Lift or similar camming device. If it needs to be held up with a chest harness, it seems difficult to keep the devices as far away from each other as I would prefer. Can anyone else comment on how smoothly it feeds or how it compares to other devices in this regard? Curious if it's similar to my ropeman 2.