Mussy hooks???

Gareth Cwrote:

If the anchors have long enough chains, I like adding my own locker between the fixed hooks if I know I'll be taking a few toprope laps. Clipping both hooks with the locker a few links up keeps the majority of the weight/wear off the hooks while climbing and doesn't require coming out of the anchor to clean. 

You are correct that this is a common way to do it, and I'm not criticizing your advice.  However, just to share full information though, this is the type of setup that the climber was cleaning at the time of her fatal accident that I mentioned a few posts above.

Top rope off draws so the masterpoint is below the hooks. Lift the rope and drop it into the hooks to clean. Or clip into the anchor, clean your hardware and clip the rope through the hooks and take. Do not clip the ropes into the mussy hooks while through the anchor above the hooks without going into the anchor with a personal tether. 

Mussy hooks are 8 bucks?! Was the don't top rope off them ethic invented by Big Carabiner? 

Let's all bring $80 worth of anchor material and have endless arguments about anchors build instead of just using 16 dollars worth of  gear that will last 100 years ?

Tarvis Kaludewrote:

Mussy hooks are 8 bucks?! Was the don't top rope off them ethic invented by Big Carabiner? 

Let's all bring $80 worth of anchor material and have endless arguments about anchors build instead of just using 16 dollars worth of  gear that will last 100 years ?

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Tarvis Kaludewrote:

Mussy hooks are 8 bucks?! Was the don't top rope off them ethic invented by Big Carabiner? 

Let's all bring $80 worth of anchor material and have endless arguments about anchors build instead of just using 16 dollars worth of  gear that will last 100 years ?

We have routes mussys only last 2-3 years on. If you have an active community willing to do maintenance it would be fine, but they really aren't an appropriate top rope anchor for security in many situations for a variety of reasons. 

Tarvis Kaludewrote:

Let's all bring $80 worth of anchor material and have endless arguments about anchors build instead of just using 16 dollars worth of  gear that will last 100 years ?

They last two years in popular areas where people top rope through them.  That's the point of not top roping through them.