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Easy 5.12 c/d's in the RRG?

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Alan Zhang · · Kingston, ON · Joined Jan 2023 · Points: 0

I'm visiting the Red River Gorge for the second time and want to push grades. What are some easy 5.12 c/d's to climb? I'm hoping to get on Mosaic 5.12c, and Jesus Wept 5.12d. 

Dane B · · Chuff City · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 5

i would consider both of those "approachable" at the grade. Mirage at Solarium, The Abyss at the Deep End, Tuna Town at the lode, Mule at Military Wall. All of these are entry level in the grade to me, but they all require one common factor, that elusive Red River Gorge fitness

Thomas Gilligan · · Houston, TX · Joined Oct 2021 · Points: 20

Herd mentality felt really soft for 12c at solar collector. I believe your not supposed to take the 2nd sit down hueco for 12c, but its only like 11a after that anyway

Chris Singletary · · Blacksburg, VA · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 1,010

Add Cell Block Six to that list, it's an excellent one and also low in the grade. The two you mention are must do's for sure.

For the record I thought Jesus Wept wasn't as soft as people say, definitely a step up from the 12c's I've done.

Pinche Gringo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2019 · Points: 2,745

Wouldn't an easy 5.12c/d actually be a 5.12a/b, or something like that?  Thus, it wouldn't actually be pushing grades..  I guess I'm old..

Dane B · · Chuff City · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 5

I think routes can differ between entry level, spot on, and hard for the grade based on YDS grading. Of course style and body type determines what plays to your strengths and always factors in too. Cell block six was mentioned as one of the soft 12c’s. Without solid power endurance and a preference for big moves to big holds that route will feel anything but easy. I know shorter people who have climbed up to 13- who don’t think they can climb that route based on beta burning it (same for demon seed at bob marley crag in the red). Grades are funny, subjective, and shouldn’t matter as much in amateur climbing ultimately 

Chris Singletary · · Blacksburg, VA · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 1,010

I actually think cell block requires the opposite of power endurance. There are multiple huge resting jugs in the steep section and the two cruxes are very defined and powerful, not really pumpy. Also if you're short there is still an intermediate in the big move.

scn · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 0

No matter the grade Cell Block Six is super fun.  And it has a great, clean victory whip, especially skipping the last bolt.  

Reden Remigio · · Colorado Springs, CO · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 0

For me its

Mosaic
Mirage
Belly of the Beast
Tuna Town

Dane B · · Chuff City · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 5

Belly of the beast probably the fluffiest of all the 12c’s mentioned 

Haskie D · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 1,116

Mirage 

So Long Mr. Petey 

Diminished Gluteal Syndrome

Big Gay Al’s Big Gay Boatride 

Belly of the Beast 

Coroner  

Mule 

Spiral Snake

Nick Niebuhr · · CO · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 465

How are you pushing the grades if you're looking for easy climbs at the grades?

Noah Betz · · Beattyville, KY · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 49

Hellraiser

Cottonmouth

Anaphylaxis

Charlie Regan · · Austin, TX · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0
Nick Niebuhrwrote:

How are you pushing the grades if you're looking for easy climbs at the grades?

soft 12c is still harder than hard 12b (usually)

Taylor Owens · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 10

If you are relatively strong but lacking some fitness, stunning the hog felt chill for 12d

Noah Betz · · Beattyville, KY · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 49
Charlie Reganwrote:

soft 12c is still harder than hard 12b (usually)

Nah, in the red the difficulty goes:

12a (easiest)

11d

12c

12b

12a/b

13a

12d

climb2core · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 1,085

So Long Mr. Petey for sure.  One move wonder.  

Belly of the Beast 

Mosaic

Live with a Curse

The Abyss

Can't Touch This (Another one move wonder)

Herd Mentality

climb2core · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 1,085
Noah Betzwrote:

Nah, in the red the difficulty goes:

12a (easiest)

11d

12c

12b

12a/b

13a

12d

12a   Naked

11d Poison S or High Heaven (original grades)

12c So Long Mr. Petey

12b Super Best Friends   Exception: Soul Ram

12 a/b Tabernacle

13a Apollo Reed   ;)  "Everyone's first 13a, until they do a real 13a"

12d Darkness Falls

wake and bake · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2021 · Points: 0

buff the wood as a soft c?

edit -double entendre not intended 

Jeremy L · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2020 · Points: 858
Noah Betzwrote:

Nah, in the red the difficulty goes:

12a (easiest)

11d

12c

12b

12a/b

13a

12d

Where does 9+ go in your scale? 

Noah Betz · · Beattyville, KY · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 49
Jeremy Lwrote:

Where does 9+ go in your scale? 

Good callout, amended:

9+

12a

11d

12c

9+

12b

12a/b

13a

12d

9+

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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