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Have a chance to move to LA. How's the climbing?

Diego Climber · · San Diego, CA · Joined Jan 2022 · Points: 1
Karl Walterswrote:

My parents live in Tucson and I live in SD. I would absolutely move to LA for climbing/life compared to Tucson. You drive a bit further, sorta, but the variety is much, much higher and the quality is as well. Tucson is fairly far from destination areas like the Sierra Eastside or Red Rock and frankly lots of the climbing, while nice, is so-so and a pain in the ass.

You’re forgetting how horrible and crowded and expensive living in LA is. Living in Southern California is. There’s a reason you don’t live in LA. It only makes sense for a very specific small group of people . Like people that don’t have to work and drive. Willc has the most accurate description of LA and climbing .

Dan Nguyen · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Aug 2018 · Points: 15

I lived in So Cal for two years (LA for one) before moving back to San Francisco. 

I got A LOT of climbing done and was climbing at my best down there. The weather is consistent and you can climb within 2.5 hours of LA for 10 months of the year. Joshua Tree and Tahquitz were the regular haunts for me. You could do a weekend trip or an easy day trip to either of those areas. 

There area also good local places to go sport climbing if you can only do a half day. 

I miss how much I climbed when I lived in LA. 

Dan Nguyen · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Aug 2018 · Points: 15
Diego Climberwrote:

You’re forgetting how horrible and crowded and expensive living in LA is. Living in Southern California is. There’s a reason you don’t live in LA. It only makes sense for a very specific small group of people . Like people that don’t have to work and drive. 

Lol what an obtuse statement. I drove and worked in LA. No issues.

Lived in Silverlake and commuted to Arcadia.

x15x15 · · Use Ignore Button · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 280
Diego Climberwrote:

You’re forgetting how horrible and crowded and expensive living in LA is. Living in Southern California is. There’s a reason you don’t live in LA. It only makes sense for a very specific small group of people . Like people that don’t have to work and drive. 

Judging by the amount of people that live in LA, including tons of climbers, your statement is factually incorrect...

Dan Nguyen · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Aug 2018 · Points: 15
Diego Climberwrote:

Meaning you make twice as much and spend three and a  times as much. High cost of living area. Always paying to park , parking tickets, using lots of gas etc etc . need to make $200,000 to be middle class.
SFV, SGV WLA are known . GH SV and abbrv every district and neighborhood aren’t . By many metrics LA county including the valleys and inland areas do not have high standard of living or quality of life. Realize you’re inside AC or heated buildings or vehicle the majority of walking hours. The nicer areas are far more expensive then people can pay . Watch Sigalert.com  red 15 mph roads for 16 hours a day . Smog filled Burbank Kevin is hours from anything in traffic . Williamson in Angeles forest has been closed for  20 years. Angelenos delude themselves and mostly climb indoors 

Not My Name is just a hater lol. I lived in LA on a teachers salary and was not roughing it at all. 

David Katz · · Calabasas, CA · Joined Jan 2020 · Points: 1,056

Los Angeles is a great place to live if you have good employment. Lot’s of climbing throughout the Santa Monica Mountains and Stoney Point in Chatsworth. Los Angeles is one of the best places for job opportunity if you have the the right skills.

David Katz · · Calabasas, CA · Joined Jan 2020 · Points: 1,056

Diego Climber · · San Diego, CA · Joined Jan 2022 · Points: 1
Dan Nguyenwrote:

Lol what an obtuse statement. I drove and worked in LA. No issues.

Lived in Silverlake and commuted to Arcadia.

Calabassas is a rich distant empty suburb. Bishop is 5 hours from LA. Lots of issues. You made $200,000 per year and paid $5,000 rent. Sure plenty of people do one two three hour commutes in gridlock traffic. Driving three hours to climbing is not climbing after work . Most of the outdoor climbing is way too far or shitty for evening sessions. The only possible exception is Malibu creek . One hour drive plus one hour hike. Williamson is closed forever.  Stoney point is a terrible rock chose pile. Willc has the most accurate description of LA and climbing .

Diego Climber · · San Diego, CA · Joined Jan 2022 · Points: 1
Dan Nguyenwrote:

Not My Name is just a hater lol. I lived in LA on a teachers salary and was not roughing it at all. 

You lived with six roommates in the hottest part of one of the distant valleys. That’s Not living well. Willc has the most accurate description of LA and climbing .

Diego Climber · · San Diego, CA · Joined Jan 2022 · Points: 1
x15x15wrote:

Judging by the amount of people that live in LA, including tons of climbers, your statement is factually incorrect...

Willc has the most accurate description of LA and climbing .
$35 for a day pass to a crowded gym. Burbank is the armpit of the valley. Zero parking at outdoor climbing areas. Sit in LA rush hour. It’s half the day. Insane to advocate for more people and cars. No so cal dweller not motivated by greed wants more cars and people. They are hostile to

More people. A tiny percentage of the ten million people in the greater LA area climb. Tons of LA climbers indoor climb. Tons climb on garbage rock Stoney point and tick rock . Tons jam point dume , Malibu creek and echo on weekends. Tons don’t climb good rock on weekday evenings. None of those are good reasons to live there. Not a single Angeleno thinks more people should be there. No sane person wants more cars on those roads and parking areas.

Kevin Mokracek · · Burbank · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 378
Diego Climberwrote:

A tiny percentage of the ten million people in the greater LA area climb. Tons of LA climbers indoor climb. Tons climb on garbage rock Stoney point and tick rock . Tons jam point dume , Malibu creek and echo on weekends. Tons don’t climb good rock on weekday evenings.

I can be climbing good quality rock up to two pitches with zero crowds in an hour from my home in Burbank and often do make the hour drive in the late afternoon to catch cool temps in the mountains.  I can drive an hour and ten minutes and be climbing great sport routes in the desert.  Both areas have less than a 100yard approach from the car and zero people.  Living in LA doesn't mean crowded choosy crags unless you don't know where to go then you are stuck climbing with the masses.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349
Kevin Mokracekwrote:

I can be climbing good quality rock up to two pitches with zero crowds in an hour from my home in Burbank and often do make the hour drive in the late afternoon to catch cool temps in the mountains.  I can drive an hour and ten minutes and be climbing great sport routes in the desert.  Both areas have less than a 100yard approach from the car and zero people.  Living in LA doesn't mean crowded choosy crags unless you don't know where to go then you are stuck climbing with the masses.

Kevin- no use wasting your time… Not My Name    is obviously not going to change their mind and that’s all good we don’t need another person living in LA.
Now is a good time for the “….beating a dead horse” meme….. 

Mark Frumkin · · Bishop, CA · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 52

All things are what you make of them!

x15x15 · · Use Ignore Button · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 280
Diego Climberwrote:

Willc has the most accurate description of LA and climbing .
$35 for a day pass to a crowded gym. Burbank is the armpit of the valley. Zero parking at outdoor climbing areas. Sit in LA rush hour. It’s half the day. Insane to advocate for more people and cars. No so cal dweller not motivated by greed wants more cars and people. They are hostile to

More people. A tiny percentage of the ten million people in the greater LA area climb. Tons of LA climbers indoor climb. Tons climb on garbage rock Stoney point and tick rock . Tons jam point dume , Malibu creek and echo on weekends. Tons don’t climb good rock on weekday evenings. None of those are good reasons to live there. Not a single Angeleno thinks more people should be there. No sane person wants more cars on those roads and parking areas.

Not My Name wrote:

You’re forgetting how horrible and crowded and expensive living in LA is. Living in Southern California is. There’s a reason you don’t live in LA. It only makes sense for a very specific small group of people . Like people that don’t have to work and drive.

Whoever said I'm  advocating for more? I'm just stating your facts don't lineup. I don't have any skin in the game ... it seems it's not a small, specific niche either, that you stated... sorta.

Andrew Rice · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 11
Diego Climberwrote:

You lived with six roommates in the hottest part of one of the distant valleys. That’s Not living well. Willc has the most accurate description of LA and climbing .

He said he lived in Silverlake. Do you even know the geography of LA? It's one of the hippest neighborhoods in the city. It's also in the Hollywood Hills, not in "the hottest part of one of the distant valleys." 

Steve Williams · · The state of confusion · Joined Jul 2005 · Points: 235

Plenty of social climbing there!

Diego Climber · · San Diego, CA · Joined Jan 2022 · Points: 1

Silver lake and Los Felix are not in the Hollywood hills and not hip . horribly crowded and expensive .can’t drive because there’s no parking.  It’s two hours from climbing 

Mark Frumkin · · Bishop, CA · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 52

Someone form San Diago complaining about L.A. that's sadly funny.

Diego Climber · · San Diego, CA · Joined Jan 2022 · Points: 1

Mark you’re in bishop. Zero relevance to Los Angeles 

Mark Frumkin · · Bishop, CA · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 52

Not My Name, I'm from L.A. My son lives in S.D. I'm in S.D. a lot. & you being you = zero relevance.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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