Inland Northwest Rock Climbs Guidebook

Khoiwrote:

How much do you want for it?

$55 plus shipping. What is the best shipping method from US to Canada? Does media mail go to Canada? 

George Bracksieckwrote:

$55 plus shipping. What is the best shipping method from US to Canada? Does media mail go to Canada? 

Deal!

I have a mailbox in Point Roberts, WA you can ship to

Ok. Media mail costs about $5   It takes longer, so if you want priority mail, that would cost about $15. I can mail it Monday. Pm me with your address, and I’ll send you my PayPal account email address. You don’t have to pay until Monday morning. 

George Bracksieckwrote:

Ok. Media mail costs about $5   It takes longer, so if you want priority mail, that would cost about $15. I can mail it Monday. Pm me with your address, and I’ll send you my PayPal account email address. You don’t have to pay until Monday morning. 

PM sent

Can someone scan this to pdf or is that unethical?

Bryce Hendersonwrote:

Can someone scan this to pdf or is that unethical?

unethical without the author's permission... 

Dana Walters 1wrote:

unethical without the author's permission... 

Figured so. I want a copy of this book too but can’t justify the asking price plus shipping

Does it have stuff that’s not on mountain project? Can someone digitize it and put it online? There ought to be an online database of out of print guidebooks.

Dan Schoowrote:

Does it have stuff that’s not on mountain project? Can someone digitize it and put it online? There ought to be an online database of out of print guidebooks.

I’ll bet there’s gobs and gobs of forum threads on MP where this shit has been rehashed. Route developers and in the know locals often like to keep their shit off mountain project for a host of reasons that can range from totally valid to blatantly selfish

Bryce Hendersonwrote:

I’ll bet there’s gobs and gobs of forum threads on MP where this shit has been rehashed. Route developers and in the know locals often like to keep their shit off mountain project for a host of reasons that can range from totally valid to blatantly selfish

As someone who has contributed routes from this guidebook to mountain project… it is hard for me to muster the motivation to put in the effort to share material that could be blocked behind a paywall at a moments notice…

Dana Walters 1wrote:

As someone who has contributed routes from this guidebook to mountain project… it is hard for me to muster the motivation to put in the effort to share material that could be blocked behind a paywall at a moments notice…

Do you know something I don’t, is MP moving towards having a paywall? Or is this a sentiment that once a route is shared it’s for better or worse out of ones hands? What seems like a paywall to me is not being able to access route info due to books being out of print. So when people post established routes to a community platform like MP I see it as an act of good faith.

I have a lot of questions and to be clear none of them come from a place of disrespect for people who establish climbing areas and put up routes.

What is the rationale, for example, of sharing only a few of the limestone routes at Marcus bend and China bend? Are the ones that have been posted to MP the best lines and least chossy? Is it a worry that if people knew how much was really out there then it would get blown up and access would be threatened?

Bryce Hendersonwrote:

Do you know something I don’t, is MP moving towards having a paywall? Or is this a sentiment that once a route is shared it’s for better or worse out of ones hands? What seems like a paywall to me is not being able to access route info due to books being out of print. So when people post established routes to a community platform like MP I see it as an act of good faith.

Mountain Project's parent company is in the business of making profit. Read the following article https://eveningsends.com/the-future-of-climbing-guides-must-be-open-source/

"What is the rationale, for example, of sharing only a few of the limestone routes at Marcus bend and China bend? Are the ones that have been posted to MP the best lines and least chossy? Is it a worry that if people knew how much was really out there then it would get blown up and access would be threatened?"

The rationale is laziness, at some point when I have time to do the task justice I plan on contributing my personal notes to https://openbeta.io/?v=newTags.. Open Beta in my personal opinion is a more community centric database for this information and will not try to monetize it. 

If you want my personal notes and ramblings, I am happy to send them to you with the caveat that they might not make a ton of sense... 

Bryce Hendersonwrote:

Can someone scan this to pdf or is that unethical?

Happy to message Marty and ask him. I suspect that he probably has boxes of these somewhere he'd love to sell you all too.

Pasha, Let me know what he says; I would buy one off him. 

Seth

As would I

Was anyone ever able to get a hold of Marty? I would be interested in a copy as well.

I couldnt get ahold of him, but i managed to get a copy of the book. I plan to upload the book onto my google drive and will share here unless he reaches out and asks me not to share. Most of the info in the book is outdated compared to what is available on mountain project at this point.

I have a copy of the book if anyone is still looking for one. PM me and make an offer if interested. I’m not living up there anymore so won’t be needing it.

My copy has been sold