Thinking of moving to Denver... how crowded are the mountains really?

James Wwrote:

I hate I 70 any month of the year, but in winter the traffic is less spread out, to sync with the chairlifts, and moves slower due to snow conditions.  Winter is way, way worse.  You will generally sit in traffic much longer during the same peak hours.

that's true for peak hours, but if you average travel time data across an entire day, it's basically a wash (it just seems way worse in winter because the "spikes" in travel time are so high).

https://www.westword.com/news/the-best-and-worst-times-to-drive-into-the-mountains-on-i-70-from-denver-8920824

i drive i70 nearly every weekend of every season...and my subjective analysis aligns with my above statement, which brings me back to my original point. I70 sucks any weekend of the year.

One thing I’ve noticed about Colorado is widespread nativism among people whose mothers were located in Colorado when they gave birth. It’s damn near as bad as Vermont, where it’s repulsive—like, people going to Vermont to deliver their babies just so they can say they are Vermonters (although just because a cat crawls into an oven to deliver her litter doesn’t make her kittens into muffins, you know?).  I once dated a woman who was quite proud to let me know that she was a fifth-generation native, which I suppose meant mostly that her great-great grandparents were directly involved in swindling some earlier natives with red skin. People! We live in a federal republic where interstate travel and residence is permitted, and even that is just a story we tell about how we belong to a population of 8 billion worms trying to co-exist on a rock floating in space. Climate change or nuclear war is likely to whack us all, even if our obsession with non-nuclear widgets doesn’t destroy our quality of life first. Nativism is never attractive; welcome your fellow human being, use your birth control, worry less about circling your wagons, and spend more time sharing the love!

Matt Antoniowrote:

... , and spend more time sharing the love!

If anyone wants to share their trust fund with me I'd love to move back :)  Thanks in advance!

curt86irocwrote:

that's true for peak hours, but if you average travel time data across an entire day, it's basically a wash (it just seems way worse in winter because the "spikes" in travel time are so high).

People probably don’t care about the total daily volume of traffic on 70 so much as they care whether they are going to sit in traffic during the time that they are on the road.

Front range and ski towns - lots of people.

Western slope and San Juans- pretty chill and not many people. 

Travis Bieberwrote:

Fact, Colorado climbing is underwhelming. Utah, Wyoming, South Dakota have much better climbing. 

absolutely correct. and that judgement includes the tiny and underwhelming Black Canyon of the Gunnison. trivial.

Chad Millerwrote:

Front range and ski towns - lots of people.

Western slope and San Juans- pretty chill and not many people. 

Except in the summertime and all the trailheads look like walmart parking lots.

Kevinmurraywrote:

Except in the summertime and all the trailheads look like walmart parking lots.

Never experienced that in the last eight years. Then again I get to trailheads by 8am. 

Ice lake was going to try a shuttle from Silverton because of 300-600 people a day on the trail. Didn't because of a fire and trail closure for a year. Blue lake at the base of Sneffels is crowded at 7:30. Hope lake is the same way .Covid sent people that would have normally gone  to Disney World have come  here. When I moved here years ago you could still go camping in the summer but now I don't even try.. Now it was real quiet over here in 1976 when I lived in Ridgway.

I wear that name proudly as I have earned it. Just like the  wrinkles and bad joints.

Kevinmurraywrote:

 bad joints.

You live in Colorado, I'm pretty sure you can get good weed if you wanted

Chad Millerwrote:

You’re proud to be a boomer?  

That’s sad. 

Why?

The connotation that someone  ascribes enough importance to when they were born to be proud of it is sad.  

Be proud of the person you are, not of when you were born  

Chad Millerwrote:

The connotation that someone  ascribes enough importance to when they were born to be proud of it is sad.  

Be proud of the person you are, not of when you were born  

You are born, you live, you die. Not proud of any date but pleased I made it this long.

Chad Millerwrote:

The connotation that someone  ascribes enough importance to when they were born to be proud of it is sad.  

Be proud of the person you are, not of when you were born  

Why can't you be both? I am. The last 60 years have been a cool ride.

In your second deleted post why did you feel it necessary to label him as a bigot simply because of when he was born? Seems like an unsubstantiated claim to ascribe to someone because they're a boomer.

If we were to meet at a climbing area, very possible as I have lived in the San Juans for over 40 years, would you call me a bigot when you saw I am old enough to be a boomer? If so doesn't that fit the definition of a bigot?

I like to think we could share a rope. But that may be senility kicking in.

Parachute Adamswrote:

Why can't you be both? I am. The last 60 years have been a cool ride.

In your second deleted post why did you feel it necessary to label him as a bigot simply because of when he was born? Seems like an unsubstantiated claim to ascribe to someone because they're a boomer.

If we were to meet at a climbing area, very possible as I have lived in the San Juans for over 40 years, would you call me a bigot when you saw I am old enough to be a boomer? If so doesn't that fit the definition of a bigot?

I didn’t label Kevin a bigot.

I called Kevin a Boomer because of his ‘things were better back then’ sentiment  combined with his strong NIMBY attitude.

I went on to describe why it’s not a good thing to be considered a Boomer.  One of those negative traits associated with a Boomer is bigotry. It’s important to note that age has nothing to do with being called a Boomer. It’s a persons attitude.