ACT NOW: Bitterroot National Forest Bans New Bolts
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ryanb wrote: I live walking distance from Mill Creek and my wife child and I are up there hiking, frequently trail running and skiing etc. The sport crag has very little impact especially compared to the heavy traffic the area sees from all other user groups. It also effects only a tiny fraction of the cliff side habitat in mill creek. Hi Ryan - thanks for the first hand account. That’s super helpful and thoughtful perspective! |
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Realized people aren't going to believe me when i say this area is bigger then the Tetons or Enchantments or realize quite how ridiculous this ban is without some some photos... The sport climbing is in that first little set of alcoves at the formation. The prow and the walls beyond have mostly very bold trad climbs. Here is a pick looking back canyon: And this is looking back out the canyon from a few miles back: There is apparently an excellent 5.10+ handcrack multipitch 5 miles back there. Heres a aaj links from 1975: http://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/12197513303/North-America-United-States-Montana-Mill-Creek-Canyon-Bitterroot-Range A its mentioned in this 2001 one: http://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/12200119300/North-America-United-States-Wyoming-Bitterroot-Mountains-Various-Activity Blodgett Canyon Blodgett Canyon is the Next Canyon South: Those are the main domes in the first 3 or so miles of canyon and have a ton of classic multipitch routes and some hard aid all with minimal bolts. Free climbing on going. But the canyon goes back much further. This has a 20 pitch IV 5.10 on it. (Caesers's Palace see link from above: http://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/12200119300/North-America-United-States-Wyoming-Bitterroot-Mountains-Various-Activity ... note the aaj got the state wrong. Thats obscure!) And here is Blodgett Peak at the head of the canyon 10+ miles back. Beautiful white granite: Canyon Creek Next Canyon holds the creatively named canyon lake/peak. Here's the classic north ridge route: Lost Horse Creek Skipping over Sawtooth Creek and Roaring Line (which do hold a couple of classic 5.10s and 11s on big buttresses see: publications.americanalpine… ) we get to Lost Horse which is notable because it has a road up it 20 miles back into the wilderness make for a ton of accessible bouldering and trad cragging on excellent if occasionally block stone: (I linked the bouldering guide I wrote above but i have a volume 2 of equal length in the work and notes a ton more) Hike a few miles up the abanonded trail up the south fork and you'll find a 2000 foot granite apron with a few very sparsley bolted routes like "Poodles on a String" on it. Trapper Creek I could go on. There are 20+ glacially cut granite / granitc mylonite canyons branching off the west side of the valley. And scattered grainy older granite domes on the other side i haven't even got into. But lets skip ahead to trapper creek canyon/trapper peak which is the highest peak in the range. This is one of Alex Lowe's old stomping grounds. The trail has mostly been abanonded byt the forest service and you can pull into the parking lot and have the area to yourself: Forgive the smoke but here is the view looking north from trapper peak back into the drainage (and up at some of the others mentioned) : Now there are a handful of alpine routes documented on trapper itself in "Select Alpine Climbs to Montana" by Ron Brunckhorst and a few more in the AAJ ( publications.americanalpine… ). But lots, maybe all of those buttresses you see have also been climbed. Dig around for old posts on cascadeclimbers by user "Bug" and others but people have been going up there since the 70s and doing routes without much record and never quite knowing if its a first ascent or not unless they find old gear. Since this ban bans all new routes across the whole forest and all the old routes aren't well documented its going to make it really hard to be sure you are legally climbing in lots of these places. This place truly is a world class area. Especially a alpine free climbing has progressed to rely less on continuous crack systems it has the potential is vast. And i've barely even touched on all the scattered smaller crags and boulders ... I have notes on 30+ distinct, mostly unpublished areas. |
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The Bitterroot really is amazing and has so much potential. It's worth mentioning that when the ban says new routes, that includes trad routes. Utterly ludicrous. Has there ever been a ban on trad routes before in a NF? |
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This is the most aroused I've been all morning. So... Anyone want to head out there in the spring? DM me ;) |
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Did you miss what I said above Rico? The ban includes all new route development, INCLUDING trad routes. |
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Dallin Carey wrote: The Bitterroot really is amazing and has so much potential. It's worth mentioning that when the ban says new routes, that includes trad routes. Utterly ludicrous. Has there ever been a ban on trad routes before in a NF? How do you even enforce that? Like there is no evidence of a trad route most of the time. I honestly wouldn't care if they made it illegal. No way they can prove its a "new route". |
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There is no way they can enforce it. But if climbers in Western Montana want to be trusted by the FS, then it would be better to comply with the ban instead of disobeying it just because they'll never know. |
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Dallin Carey wrote: There is no way they can enforce it. But if climbers in Western Montana want to be trusted by the FS, then it would be better to comply with the ban instead of disobeying it just because they'll never know. How do you obey that? Ask the FS what version of the guide book is canon? |
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Who knows. All the more reason to get the ban lifted. |
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Ok, to all of you who are cheering the ban and babble about how one can still climb trad, do you ever see the utility of fixed pro on trad routes? Virtually all hard trad, especially multi-pitch, will have fixed pro somewhere on the route, whether it is for anchors when there are no other options or to link blank sections. |
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The order is here: https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd701760.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1zHFL6_phYtadAiERadhtQJ_vOvNF10_ufKRmAvEqnCY6d-G5IAEKoj74 |
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Ryan, such a boss. Thanks so much for taking so many words out of my mouth. Lets meet up and talk. I want to write an Op ed on this. You would be an awesome wealth of knowledge and perspective. Thanks again dude!! |
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get it right!the same wmtcc members causing the problems now use fake-news to cover thier butts!broot ban is for new bolts;read the document!and read bolting the best in the ravalli republic to learn about the excess fun's representatives awarness of local ethics[even if they profess ethics!]. |
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Rick Torrewrote: What? |
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bolt ban,not a first ascent ban. |
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Naturally we climbers are our own worst enimies and most dangerous are the Zellots who think they are on some sort of holy anti sport climbing crusade. they bitch to the govt about bolts and the next thing you know we lose access. |
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Nick Goldsmithwrote: Right on nick |
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is there any update on this? |
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Ryan and Kirsten, As far as I know the CMP is still in some state of limbo. But I'm not the most informed on the issue |
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I’ll answer to the best of my knowledge but if anyone else knows more, feel free to chime in. There was a draft released by the BNF after years (literal years) of round table discussion, mostly over Zoom, that involved climbers and the community. Despite input from climbers, the draft was not going to fairly manage or allow for development, as well as leaving more questions than answers for future management between the FS and WMTCC. For info on what has been documented so far in the process: https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/65704c90837548be9be0e5385720b848 As for what comes next, I heard there is a national USFS CMP in the works (no idea on timeline for that), that will be used as a baseline for implementation of CMP’s in areas like the Bitterroots. This is to ensure individual CMP’s don’t have national implications, such as other FS agencies following suit in bans or restrictions vs management practices. Again, best of my knowledge here, but hope that helps a bit. |


















