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Chop The Smith Rebar Ladder

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Garrett B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2020 · Points: 60

I think we are all disgusted by this blemish on Smith Rock right now. The ethical problems with this rebar are obvious to even the most casual of observers but we need to clean up that face. Im currently working on contacting the Access Fund, State Park officials, & now our climbing community. I confess i've never had to chop bolts or rebar off a climb. Either way lets get organized and remove this. Anyone wishing to help in any way shape or form please don't hesitate to contact me or use this form.

Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,100

The first thing you should do is read the recently issued park order:

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Garrett B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2020 · Points: 60

Thanks Allen for the info it's appreciated. It's not my intention to just go chopping the rebar without a plan or consent of the park. My intention is to bring the community and the park service to a joint effort on this and contribute where i can.

Mark S Warren · · Bend, OR · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0

Pretty sure this is already being discussed by some pretty talented folks.

Garrett B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2020 · Points: 60
Mark S Warrenwrote:

Pretty sure this is already being discussed by some pretty talented folks.

Who and how can people help?

Tradiban · · 951-527-7959 · Joined Jul 2020 · Points: 212

Mark S Warren · · Bend, OR · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0

Some fool went out there with an angle grinder and did a poor job. I almost think it was SS just to make things more dramatic but who knows. 

Now, someone way more skilled is going to fix it. Probably an affiliate of the High Desert Climbers Alliance... maybe.

I don't work for them and I'm not a member, but we collaborated on some stewardship in the spring and they do it right. Donations always help!

Garrett B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2020 · Points: 60

So a bit of an update for everyone the park service is aware of the rebar ladder. Or... rather what was. The thick of it has been removed and they will be removing the remaining rebar and covering it with rock

Don Halo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 0
Mark S Warrenwrote:

Some fool went out there with an angle grinder and did a poor job. I almost think it was SS just to make things more dramatic but who knows. 

Now, someone way more skilled is going to fix it. Probably an affiliate of the High Desert Climbers Alliance... maybe.

I don't work for them and I'm not a member, but we collaborated on some stewardship in the spring and they do it right. Donations always help!

Wasn’t a fool.  Needed to be quick at the time.  It will all get taken care of and unless you really know what you are looking for you will never notice it.  People with actual skill are already on the job and have been for years. 

Mark S Warren · · Bend, OR · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0
Don Halowrote:

Wasn’t a fool.  Needed to be quick at the time.  It will all get taken care of and unless you really know what you are looking for you will never notice it.  People with actual skill are already on the job and have been for years. 

Per my "fool"  comment, I'd be happier to be wrong than right on that one. Looking forward to having someone with real skills fix this mess as it makes me sick to my stomach that someone did this to Smith. Regards.

lucas funkhouser · · Buckley Wa · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 324

If you see this, please send Snyder your love. 

“Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that”  -MLK

Bryan H · · Redwood CIty, CA · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 77

Why are all the MP Smith rebar threads deleted? I understand the presumed bolter is a troublemaker and maybe the threads devolved into shit shows, but how about some info on the situation?? 

Ka Boom · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 0

Wow. The only thread Alan ever commented in is deleted. 2020 continues to suck. 

Anthony Balestreri · · Saint Louis, MO · Joined May 2018 · Points: 66
Ka Boomwrote:

Wow. The only thread Alan ever commented in is deleted. 2020 continues to suck. 

It was a good post too. Why is this place so heavily moderated? Rei influence?

NickMartel · · Tucson, Arizona · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 1,332

What did Alan say? Screenshot...

Michael Brady · · Wenatchee, WA · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 1,392
revans wrote:

fascism 

lol

Don Halo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 0
revans wrote:

Thin skin, fascism 

Pretty sure Marxists and Fascists both have thin skin.  Hence the control issues for both.  Both ideologies lead to utter shit and then everything they touch into a brown substance, which is one giant reason we have the system we do in America (thank God).  

Jeff Edge · · Bend, OR · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 2,278

Would imagine the threads got removed since most of what was driving the vandalism at Smith was attention. And most of the attention and therefore motivation was coming from having a platform on this site.

Mark S Warren · · Bend, OR · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0
Jeff Edgewrote:

Would imagine the threads got removed since most of what was driving the vandalism at Smith was attention. And most of the attention and therefore motivation was coming from having a platform on this site.

Yeah. This. :-(  He's moved on to making his usual style posts in a Yosemite FB group now and says he's going there next.

Old lady H · · Boise, ID · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 1,375

Sorry this happened, guys. FWIW, make the most of it, work with your rangers, and keep that good relationship going! City of Rocks has been "managed" for a long time now, and I'm super grateful for that. With booming populations in much of the west, the sooner the better, to have long range plans in place that will carry through even after any particular individuals are gone (any players, good bad or indifferent). Taking care of our places is a big burden locals take on, sometimes for decades, that all of us benefit from.

So thanks for caring, and thanks for the hard work!

Best, Helen

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Artem Vasilyev wrote:

Shawn is apparently in the 'sups right now, potentially up to his shenanigans. Ran into the park manager a minute ago - he was trying to find him with binoculars. I'm helping with some development tasks at NP right now, so I'll keep an eye in that direction throughout the day. So much for him taking his mischief to Yose... I was kinda hoping we could pawn him off to the Californians 

Um, not all of us are local and know where you're speaking of.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Pacific Northwest
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