Will you avoid buying gear made in China now?

Holy shit this a dumpster fire of a thread. I can't tell if people are just trolling by comparing the US to China and other dictatorial regimes in terms of human rights. 

You Really Are The Greatest wrote: There probably isn’t a lot we can do to put pressure on China, but buying gear made in countries not committing heinous crimes against humanity seems like a good idea to me.

Jesus Christ.

As best as possible I avoid buying anything made in China because of their human rights violations to their environmental policies to their decimation of often rare and endangered animals for "status" and "medicines" (tigers, bears, pangolins, sharks, gill rakers, rhino, elephants). With the coronavirus originating from wildlife markets the spot light is on them and the companies who do business in China that it is time to change part of their culture.

the Daily Mail today is reporting that between Jan and March this year,  China stockpiled 2 Billion masks,  much of it through a global campaign to recruit Chinese owned companies in foreign countries to raid stocks of the items.

Hey China! You're cancelled!

tom donnelly wrote: the Daily Mail today is reporting that between Jan and March this year,  China stockpiled 2 Billion masks,  much of it through a global campaign to recruit Chinese owned companies in foreign countries to raid stocks of the items.

That doesn't sound right, it's not even 2 per person.

You Really Are The Greatest wrote: There probably isn’t a lot we can do to put pressure on China, but buying gear made in countries not committing heinous crimes against humanity seems like a good idea to me.

You mean like the US?

Jeremy in Laguna wrote:

You mean like the US?

Jeremy, buddy, esteemed fellow MP poster, your post is a duplicate of many of earlier posts in this thread.

Since what you've said has already been said, repeatedly, is it really necessary to repeat such an inflammatory statement?

Does it make the thread better? Does it make MP better? Does it make anyone happier? What do you achieve?

Ross Goldberg wrote:

Totems are made in Spain/Basque Country, and I believe that Omega Pacific manufactures in Washington

Omega Pacific uses prison (slave) labor

Jay Crew wrote:

Omega Pacific uses prison (slave) labor

I didn't know that. Slave labor you say...

Doesn't sound like slavery. Who should I believe?

...Why the hell do I keep disagreeing with people from cali!?!

Maybe it's the lockdown.

ECD H wrote: Having spent 25 years either in China or working directly with Chinese groups I’d say 99% of the content of this thread is so shallow a perspective on the nation as to be cartoonish. The equivalent of saying ‘America’ is nothing more than dumb hillbilly porn stars who shoot school kids on the way to the drive thru marijuana store. 

For example? Which parts are shallow?

ECD H wrote: Having spent 25 years either in China or working directly with Chinese groups I’d say 99% of the content of this thread is so shallow a perspective on the nation as to be cartoonish. The equivalent of saying ‘America’ is nothing more than dumb hillbilly porn stars who shoot school kids on the way to the drive thru marijuana store. 

Hillbilly porn

You Really Are The Greatest wrote: There probably isn’t a lot we can do to put pressure on China, but buying gear made in countries not committing heinous crimes against humanity seems like a good idea to me.

Will I? Absolutely, and it isn't just because they (intentionally) spread this virus! I've been avoiding buying from China wherever I can for YEARS!

Mike Tsuji wrote: I think Metolius has always made their gear in Bend.  And I've had good experience with their customer service.

^ Yes. Same here.

You Really Are The Greatest wrote: There probably isn’t a lot we can do to put pressure on China, but buying gear made in countries not committing heinous crimes against humanity seems like a good idea to me.

You going to stop buying US made goods too?

Morgan Patterson wrote:

You going to stop buying US made goods too?

You commie!!!

r m wrote:

Jeremy, buddy, esteemed fellow MP poster, your post is a duplicate of many of earlier posts in this thread.

Since what you've said has already been said, repeatedly, is it really necessary to repeat such an inflammatory statement?

Does it make the thread better? Does it make MP better? Does it make anyone happier? What do you achieve?

They call that consensus. 

The good news for China is her people have gone back to work already. The troubling news for China is a lot of her customers aren't spending any money right now. I think China manufacturing will reemerge from the crisis stronger than ever, though. It will continue to be extremely difficult and more expensive of course, to avoid Chinese made goods. For some its a cost to bear. For others, the cheapest price always wins. There is more of the latter than the former, as most people vote with their wallet.

r m wrote:

I didn't know that. Slave labor you say...

In 1995 Omega was one of a few companies to partner with a local medium security correctional facility. Inmates made carabiners for roughly 10 years until the program was shut down (due to a legality concern with the Washington State Constitution, all Washington corporations working with the prison system were halted by court order). During that time, workers “inside” received the same wages as they would “outside” and gained many skills. The program also encouraged good behavior in the prison because the Omega job was coveted, and there was a lengthy waiting list for the next position.
https://blog.weighmyrack.com/omega-pacific-classic-american-manufacturing/

Doesn't sound like slavery. Who should I believe?

You should read the 13th amendment.