35 meter rope left of the 1st flat iron rappel

We had to leave our 35 meter rope on the 1st flat iron rappel last night. If you retrieve it please let me know. Thanks

Erik

832-567-4045

Did you cut your rope?

No. We use a 35m rope for simo climbing and then we use a 35 m 5 mil tag line for rappelling to retrieve the simo rope. Somehow we forgot the tag line and had to leave the rope. Too much snow up there for me to feel comfortable doing the down climb In The dark

much appreciated for installing this new fixed rap line!

what the fuck? is that like a Satan's minions thing?

Carlos Danger wrote: what the fuck? is that like a Satan's minions thing?

No. OP clearly stated why he did it.

Alternatively you could have rapped to the eye bolt, then rapped partially down the face to the south and pulled your rope once you got onto the dry steeper section to downclimb the rest. But this rope will be removed soon and the most important thing is safety. 

erigre wrote: Safety would have been making sure you had the tag line with you to begin with.

Well obviously. But mistakes happen. When mistakes do happen it is important to act rationally and safely. They didn't feel comfortable downclimbing to save their rope so they did the safe move and rappelled. 

Sure it is annoying to have a fixed line on the back of the first, but if that means that someone was able to extract themselves safely then I am all for it. It is the first flatiron. It will be removed in a couple days at most. 

erigre wrote: I'm sorry, if you go up there to simul climb with a 35m rope you probably have some experience. Which means you knew when you were leaving the ground you forgot to bring the tag line, its not like, even at 6-7mm, 35m of whatever just "wasn't in my pocket" ("Somehow we forgot the tag line") where I thought it was. You went ahead with it anyway. You pretty much know the back side is going to be a winterish deal (I live here, I know what it looks like up there from looking from my house). So go up the next morning and clean your shit up or leave it for whomever comes along.

It's the all too pervasive mentality of "I'm going to do what I want and someone needs to help me when I fuck up" that's the issue. It's what puts rescue people at risk (and yes, there's a time for rescue and thankfully there are people that are willing to do that)

Most likely the OP and his partner should've walked back down and left it for another day, or stayed in the gym, or just sat in the basement with the bong and video games.

You're a dickhead.

Erik:   Just a little more groveling, or “keep it if you want”, or “a case of your favorite brew” ... and folks might likely have been cheering each other on to go get it for you.  

Live and learn.

I bet Bill and Erigre are fun at parties.

Well I decided to head up the first this afternoon for a quick lunch break scramble and to grab the rope for OP if it was still fixed. Nearly got killed by a falling chunk of ice at the top of the first pitch. Extremely lucky I was able to slightly hide behind a small overlap. Still got hit in the leg & i am not sure if it is broken. Not likely, but it is extremely swollen right now as I type this back at my office.

 To the OP I have your rope. Hit me up if you want it back.

To everyone else: PSA there is a fuckload of falling ice on the first right now. I am extremely lucky to have survived. I have never seen so much falling ice on the first and I have climbed it 50+ times in the winter. 

 

ha, erigre's post is not sounding so dickish anymore...

 "It's the all too pervasive mentality of "I'm going to do what I want and someone needs to help me when I fuck up" that's the issue. It's what puts rescue people at risk (and yes, there's a time for rescue and thankfully there are people that are willing to do that)"

George Perkins wrote: Before anyone goes up there to get it or starts a GoFundMe to replace this guys bootied rope, can someone on the elite secret Satan's Minions email list confirm that this is not part of an elaborate troll?
Alternatively, GoPro footage would suffice.

It's a bunch of dudes that get up early and climb easy stuff in approach shoes; not the Illuminati.

Which, admittedly, is exactly what the Illuminati would want you to think.

mpech wrote: ha, erigre's post is not sounding so dickish anymore...

For me,  all said in humor ... mostly. 

trice Rice wrote:

Well I decided to head up the first this afternoon for a quick lunch break scramble and to grab the rope for OP if it was still fixed. Nearly got killed by a falling chunk of ice at the top of the first pitch. Extremely lucky I was able to slightly hide behind a small overlap. Still got hit in the leg & i am not sure if it is broken. Not likely, but it is extremely swollen right now as I type this back at my office.

 To the OP I have your rope. Hit me up if you want it back.

To everyone else: PSA there is a fuckload of falling ice on the first right now. I am extremely lucky to have survived. I have never seen so much falling ice on the first and I have climbed it 50+ times in the winter. 

 

This is insanity. Someone leaves a rope on the first flatiron rap station and people loose their shit. Then this knucklehead (no offense I've probably done dumber things) goes up and is like "oh hey, it's noon, the is sun hitting the first. There is a lot of running water and ice on route. Perfect conditions for soloing". He nearly gets killed in the process to retrieve some other jabrone's 50 dollar section of cord.

If you're that high tech to be simul-climbing with such a fancy setup you should be strong enough to solo the route. Or better yet, use a little discernment and not climb the route when conditions are terrible.

We’ve heard “simo” and “jabrone” in this thread so far. A very good thread.

Andy Hansen wrote: We’ve heard “simo” and “jabrone” in this thread so far. A very good thread.

Yes.  Yet another "Who has the biggest dick" thread.  Bleh.

Carlos Danger wrote:

This is insanity. Someone leaves a rope on the first flatiron rap station and people loose their shit. Then this knucklehead (no offense I've probably done dumber things) goes up and is like "oh hey, it's noon, the is sun hitting the first. There is a lot of running water and ice on route. Perfect conditions for soloing". He nearly gets killed in the process to retrieve some other jabrone's 50 dollar section of cord.

If you're that high tech to be simul-climbing with such a fancy setup you should be strong enough to solo the route. Or better yet, use a little discernment and not climb the route when conditions are terrible.

Honestly the whole grabbing the rope for OP thing was a joke. I actually forgot the rope was up there until i got to the summit and saw a fixed line and remember this thread! 

I regularly scramble the first. Have probably done it 150-200 times. Have easily done it 50+ times in the winter. Many of those times are while it's melting. This was just a particularly bad day of ice fall. I think the slightly warmer days, and cold night built up much more ice than normal. So normally when things melt out to where the whole route is dry it is good to go. That obviously wasn't the case.

I definitely made a dumb decision. It is embarrassing, but luckily all I have a massive bruise on my leg and a shattered ego to show for it. 

trice Rice wrote:

Honestly the whole grabbing the rope for OP thing was a joke. I actually forgot the rope was up there until i got to the summit and saw a fixed line and remember this thread! 

I regularly scramble the first. Have probably done it 150-200 times. Have easily done it 50+ times in the winter. Many of those times are while it's melting. This was just a particularly bad day of ice fall. I think the slightly warmer days, and cold night built up much more ice than normal. So normally when things melt out to where the whole route is dry it is good to go. That obviously wasn't the case.

I definitely made a dumb decision. It is embarrassing, but luckily all I have a massive bruise on my leg and a shattered ego to show for it. 

I was spewing nonsense. I’m glad you’re okay.