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Solo Climbing Safety Survey - We need your help to solve a problem!

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Climbing Project · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2019 · Points: 0

We are high school students who need your help solving a problem! Please complete this survey to give us more information about rock climbing safety. The survey takes around 5 minutes to complete. Thank You!

https://forms.gle/Q8n1WvuCCRy9rj439

Eric J · · St. Louis, MO · Joined Feb 2019 · Points: 0

Auto-belays currently cost $2,000+...the ranges in your price question don't really make sense given that. Unless your plan is to invent a better auto-belay that is also drastically cheaper.

Sam Skovgaard · · Port Angeles, WA · Joined Oct 2017 · Points: 208

"Auto-belay" refers to those reel-like devices used in climbing gyms.  Outdoor rope soloing is completely different using different systems and devices.  I think you guys need to learn more about this topic and re-write your survey

Math Bert · · Minneapolis, MN · Joined Aug 2018 · Points: 90

Also this reads like maybe, just maybe, you're considering installing autobelays outside, which, for like 400 reasons, don't. 

Ross Goldberg · · El Segundo · Joined Oct 2017 · Points: 293

Is your survey about autobelays indoors or outdoors? Or for a rope soloing device outdoors? The survey questions need more clarity. 

If you are suggesting an outdoor autobelay.......just don't

Michael B · · Germany · Joined Apr 2019 · Points: 0

Yeah, your survey is really confusing. Look into outdoor toprope solo climbing/outdoor lead solo climbing and specify your questions accordingly.

Billcoe · · Pacific Northwet · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 936

If you can make an inexpensive auto belay type of device that can be hooked up to toprope outside and then easily take down and back home. Please DO. I'd go higher in $ for that than I indicated in the survey. Probably $300.

Bill Czajkowski · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 101

A portable outdoor auto-belay device isn't a bad idea (basically TR, or even lead, solo). Likely fixed ones would be cost prohibitive; especially when they start to get stolen. 

Billcoe · · Pacific Northwet · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 936
Bill Czajkowski wrote: A portable outdoor auto-belay device isn't a bad idea (basically TR, or even lead, solo). Likely fixed ones would be cost prohibitive; especially when they start to get stolen. 

Why would you leave a $300 device behind Bill? I don't leave Valley Giants behind (OK, maybe once but I remembered them and went back). I'd take it home and put it back with the rest of my climbing gear. Even the current ones in the gym appear to be simply clipped to a couple of lockers and very portable.

coldfinger · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 55

This makes more sense in terms of a phishing attack then an actual survey, never mind a climbing survey.  

Cairn War Machine · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2018 · Points: 6

I feel your team needs to research the topic a little more. Outdoors climbing alone is either Rope soloing or free soloing. No climbers use an auto belay outside the gym as there just to expensive to purchase and maintain.

Outdoors I use a device called a soloist for all my top rope and lead rope soloing. Other devices that are used are microtraxion's, Grigris, and soloists. There are a few other devices out there as well.

 

Jason A · · WASHINGTON · Joined Sep 2019 · Points: 20

I filled out the survey and hope these kids get the info they need. Good luck.
As others said, please dont think about adding outdoor auto belays, or even auto belays for the bottom of climbs, then every climb will have all kinds of bolts at the bottom. Keep soloing difficult, its better that way, it truly is not something I would recommend to anyone, but I love it.

Bill Czajkowski · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 101
Billcoe wrote:

Why would you leave a $300 device behind Bill? I don't leave Valley Giants behind (OK, maybe once but I remembered them and went back). I'd take it home and put it back with the rest of my climbing gear. Even the current ones in the gym appear to be simply clipped to a couple of lockers and very portable.

Well, wouldn't, but it was unclear to me where they were going.

Billcoe · · Pacific Northwet · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 936

LOL, ^^^ yeah, I feel there is more clarity on this thread than in the survey:-)  If they are looking to produce a toprope solo device that is portable, I'm interested.

Sam Skovgaard · · Port Angeles, WA · Joined Oct 2017 · Points: 208


Lightweight, portable toprope "auto-belay" device.  It already exists!

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,737
Climbing Project wrote:We are high school students who need your help solving a problem! Please complete this survey to give us more information about rock climbing safety. The survey takes around 5 minutes to complete.

What problem would that be?

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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