anybody repeat Jim Beyer’s routes?

x15x15 wrote: Isn't hit and run a crime?

Happens all the type to cyclists - to the point that there's a "joke" that goes, "If you want to kill someone and not get punished, use a car". 

Anyways, if you see this van, tell someone please:

https://www.velonews.com/2019/07/news/authorities-release-images-of-suspected-vehicle-in-colorado-hit-and-run_498339

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x15x15 wrote: Isn't hit and run a crime?

I dont know Beyer and dont want to. But if in fact it is true that he hit a person holding a bike on a dirt road, and bailed (his words), he should be in jail. Period. And all the folks standing up for Jim, well your word now means nothing. He's a criminal...

And, if that is his attitude, I would never trust anything he says or does. Climb his routes? Why? He says he laughs at others' pains that he causes.

One good reason I want the FA listed... teeheehee

Beyer, and then his friends justified the incident by claiming that he was allegedly  turned into the Park Service by a mountain biker for power drilling on the day of the incident. I believe that he claimed that he was fined by a ranger. I suppose that in their minds it made any mountain bikers fair game. 

Long Ranger wrote:

Happens all the type to cyclists - to the point that there's a "joke" that goes, "If you want to kill someone and not get punished, use a car". 

Anyways, if you see this van, tell someone please:

https://www.velonews.com/2019/07/news/authorities-release-images-of-suspected-vehicle-in-colorado-hit-and-run_498339

Whoops update: https://www.dailycamera.com/2019/08/02/state-patrols-finds-van-possibly-involved-in-boulder-hit-and-run/

Anyways, is there a type of $StreetJustice in climbing, where you throw water balloons down on climbers who suck? Just throwing (sic!) ideas out there.

the schmuck wrote:

Beyer, and the his friends justified the incident by claiming that he was allegedly  turned into the Park Service for power drilling on the day of the incident. I believe that he claimed that he was fined by a ranger. I suppose that in their minds it made any mountain bikers fair game. 

Oh, so he gets mad when he gets caught doing something illegal?  Yup, standup guy he is...

Of course, all hearsay to me. Accept the words he wrote, which are fairly damning...

x15x15 wrote:

Oh, so he gets mad when he gets caught doing something illegal?  Yup, standup guy he is...

Of course, all hearsay to me. Accept the words he wrote, which are fairly damning...

In all fairness that was pretty lame that they reported him for drilling and we only have one side of the story.  She could have been purposefully blocking the road with her bike.  The sense of entitlement of cycliers is ridiculous.  It is an extremely dangerous sport.  Physics are in play and size matters. "Hey, how was your ride...Good 100 miles but almost got hit by three cars. That is like going on a ski tour and dodging three avalanches.  

trailridge wrote:

In all fairness that was pretty lame that they reported him for drilling and we only have one side of the story.  She could have been purposefully blocking the road with her bike.  The sense of entitlement of cyclers is ridiculous.  It is an extremely dangerous sport.  Physics are in play and size matters. "Hey, how's your ride...Good 100 miles but most got hit by three cars. That is like going on a ski tour and dodging three avalanches.  

Wtf?

At this point I'm hoping Cyclists start running over climbers..... jesus christ i hate the people in this sport

Johnkelley Kelley wrote: Harumpster Boondoggle here’s a topo for you Incase you’d like to put you’re money where your mouth is...

Cool story bro. 

We've already established a Beyer's topo dont mean shit.

We also have established that his bolt chopping of historic routes means nothing to you, ergo, you have no credibility either. 

5.Seven Kevin wrote: At this point I'm hoping Cyclists start running over climbers..... jesus christ i hate the people in this sport

You just now figuring this out?

The worst ones are many of the aid climbers that just love dry humping up these vertical dirt turds.  “Climbing” at its finest, no doubt

Harumpfster Boondoggle wrote:

Cool story bro. 

We've already established a Beyer's topo dont mean shit.

We also have established that his bolt chopping of historic routes means nothing to you, ergo, you have no credibility either. 

Seems like this is personal to you.  Show me on the doll where the bad man touched you. 

Peter Blank wrote:

Seems like this is personal to you.  Show me on the doll where the bad man touched you. 

Yea, its personal bro. As someone who replaces bolts in Yosemite in an effort to maintain safe climbing and having friends whose bolts were chopped by Beyer in simple vandalism so that he could justify his own drilling (in his own mind) it IS personal for a lot of people that care about Yosemite climbing.

trailridge wrote:

In all fairness that was pretty lame that they reported him for drilling and we only have one side of the story.  She could have been purposefully blocking the road with her bike.  The sense of entitlement of cycliers is ridiculous.  It is an extremely dangerous sport.  Physics are in play and size matters. "Hey, how was your ride...Good 100 miles but almost got hit by three cars. That is like going on a ski tour and dodging three avalanches.  

This is called, "Victim Blaming".

Yeah thats what Yosemite needs more of tut, climbers.
more climbers is what this sport needs. Keep making it uber-friendly and safe for all the Gymbos coming out!

5.Seven Kevin wrote: Yeah thats what Yosemite needs more of tut, climbers.
more climbers is what this sport needs. Keep making it uber-friendly and safe for all the Gymbos coming out!

i doubt the bolts they're putting up are going to be accessed by these 'gymbos' you speak of

trailridge wrote:

In all fairness that was pretty lame that they reported him for drilling and we only have one side of the story.  She could have been purposefully blocking the road with her bike.  The sense of entitlement of cycliers is ridiculous.  It is an extremely dangerous sport.  Physics are in play and size matters. "Hey, how was your ride...Good 100 miles but almost got hit by three cars. That is like going on a ski tour and dodging three avalanches.  

Funny stuff though I wouldn't bunch trail riders with road riders.

Btw to all the haters who believe everything written and passed down on the webz- ask your mom if it's true

trailridge wrote:

In all fairness that was pretty lame that they reported him for drilling and we only have one side of the story.  She could have been purposefully blocking the road with her bike.  The sense of entitlement of cycliers is ridiculous.  It is an extremely dangerous sport.  Physics are in play and size matters. "Hey, how was your ride...Good 100 miles but almost got hit by three cars. That is like going on a ski tour and dodging three avalanches.  

Dude, your reasoning is fucked. 

1.  Yes, we have one side of the story. It is Beyers' side, and he made his intent clear. 
2.  He didn't even know that she was the cyclist who reported him. 
3.  In your world view, if a cyclist pisses you off, or is in the way, then you are entitled to run them down with your vehicle. 

I can't believe that people even think like this. 

Damn, this thread is straight out of Supertopo. 

Mark Hudon wrote: Damn, this thread is straight out of Supertopo. 

Iz crazy I tell you...

Peter Blank wrote: I figured Ron O would be in for an early round stab with some self promotion thrown in.  Do you scan the webs daily for any mention of JB so you can exploit a new opportunity to bash? PS: I've enjoyed the routes of yours that I've done.

Pffft.

Don't even have internet at my place. Pure chance.

But I don't believe that booby trapping is ethical.

And in my late 60s I'm still putting up routes, so there is still some walk in my talk. You?

Harumpfster Boondoggle wrote:
Managed to put up the most popular and maybe highest quality multi-pitch 5.10 in the world.

How about you?

I just want to make sure I understand this boast.

You're talking about the obvious extension to another climb that was put up 25 years prior in "The Valley".  The obvious crack climbing above it, with the blistering crux  pitch of 10a hands.  Approach starts by looking at it from the hotel parking lot if I'm not mistaken?

Bravo I guess?