Gear thief in Yosemite

L Kap wrote:

That isn't actually what I said... bit of a reading comprehension fail... but I would agree that racism is worse for society than simple theft. 

It's so noble of you to talk the talk, now let's see you walk the walk.

Your next post should be a trip report.

I am wondering, could someone be a thief and a racist? I've noticed a common theme across Devin's victims...

FrankPS wrote: It's almost like a game in society to see who can yell "racist" first. Such a knee-jerk reaction. (this should cue someone to call me a racist in 3, 2, 1...)

On tv they call it a racist dog whistle but here is the thing, I can’t hear a dog whistle and neither can you.  

Matt Wetmore wrote:

Who is the idiot in Bend?

Shawn Snyder. AKA Metolius Shawn

I'm going to be in Yosemite with my partner for both of our first time this July! I know it's going to be really hot, but we're tough and also only have the one chance so we're just gonna suck it up. Anybody got ideas for moderates, probably no more than 2-3 pitches, that'll let us see the valley without clogging up ultra-classics and pissing off locals? Super excited to have the added fun of dodging a gear thief... a guy next to me at Penitente Canyon got his grigri and belay goggles stolen this weekend!

Quick edit- obviously I know about route finder, but having no real sense for Yosemite grades, what the valley is really like, and where we can take our time without stepping on toes, I thought it would be good to ask y'all :)

Sloppy Second wrote: 
I am wondering, could someone be a thief and a racist? I've noticed a common theme across Devin's victims...

And here I was starting to think you might have some redeeming qualities because of your bighorn sheep post, which I appreciated. 

Billcoe wrote:Isn't that racist posting a photo of the only black climber out there?

crewdog lm wrote:

As requested L Kap

Thanks for providing your source. The above reads to me as a poor attempt at humor on Billcoe's part, not a serious complaint that it's racist to post a photo of a black thief. 

So he steals peoples gear but returns stuck ropes?  Weird.  Would be very interested in what Christian
Hesch has to say about him.

​https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/117113521/retrieved-rope-on-royal-arches​​​

mnjsan wrote: So he steals peoples gear but returns stuck ropes?  Weird.  Would be very interested in what Christian
Hesch has to say about him.

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/117113521/retrieved-rope-on-royal-arches

Christian: Man I'm glad I got that rope back, where the hell is my wallet???

Devin Andretti's Avatar photo does not look anything like the pic Camp4 watchdog posted.

mnjsan wrote: So he steals peoples gear but returns stuck ropes?  Weird.  Would be very interested in what Christian
Hesch has to say about him.

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/117113521/retrieved-rope-on-royal-arches

did you look at "Devin's" profile pic?  not exactly a match with the bulletin board photo

Tydon Kommel wrote: uhhhh did you look at the profile pic of "Devin"?  A bit of a mismatch with the bulletin board photo

Well he steals peoples gear and lies about his name so Im sure hes not against using a fake picture.  Plus look at the picture that user posted of leading after six.  The profile pic is of a white guy picture posted of after six is a black guy.

Cosmiccragsman AKA Dwain wrote: Devin Andretti's Avatar photo does not look anything like the pic Camp4 watchdog posted.

Whoa, whoa....maybe Devin identifies as a 23 year old white hipster climber.

I wish people understood definitions better, it would make conversations more productive with less animosity. Racism is believing one race is superior to another. Jokes may be racially insensitive. Believing someone has certain characteristics because of how they look is prejudice. But many people just lump those all together as racist.

The first thing I thought when I saw the picture was: great. There’s such a small percentage of black climbers in the US, that this guy is really going to feed into some peoples prejudice notions. Which this thread has confirmed.

If you judge someone by their words and actions it’s not prejudice. If you agree to climb with someone and it becomes apparent they are lying about their abilities and experience, that may be your first indication they can’t be trusted. 

TJ Brannen wrote: I'm going to be in Yosemite with my partner for both of our first time this July! I know it's going to be really hot, but we're tough and also only have the one chance so we're just gonna suck it up. Anybody got ideas for moderates, probably no more than 2-3 pitches, that'll let us see the valley without clogging up ultra-classics and pissing off locals? Super excited to have the added fun of dodging a gear thief... a guy next to me at Penitente Canyon got his grigri and belay goggles stolen this weekend!

Quick edit- obviously I know about route finder, but having no real sense for Yosemite grades, what the valley is really like, and where we can take our time without stepping on toes, I thought it would be good to ask y'all :)

Wrong thread, bro

Cosmiccragsman AKA Dwain wrote: Devin Andretti's Avatar photo does not look anything like the pic Camp4 watchdog posted.

It's obvious that the color of his helmet is not the same.

djh860 wrote:

On tv they call it a racist dog whistle but here is the thing, I can’t hear a dog whistle and neither can you.  

That's literally why they call it a dog whistle... The idea is that you are saying something which maybe doesn't seem racist on the face of it but other racists understand it. I'm happy things are better since when you were young but it's not hard to see that racism still exists.

Matt Wetmore wrote:

That's literally why they call it a dog whistle... The idea is that you are saying something which maybe doesn't seem racist on the face of it but other racists understand it. I'm happy things are better since when you were young but it's not hard to see that racism still exists.

Dude:  Is that why my gay uncle was always called "flamboyant"???

L Kap wrote:

 The above reads to me as a poor attempt at humor on Billcoe's part, not a serious complaint that it's racist to post a photo of a black thief. 

No, I'm not joking.  I live in an area with about 1.9 percent African-American population and there are so many offenders of dark skin arrested for violent crimes that all the local media have literally quit printing their photos for that very reason. That's the truth , not a joke.

mnjsan wrote:

Well he steals peoples gear and lies about his name so Im sure hes not against using a fake picture.  Plus look at the picture that user posted of leading after six.  The profile pic is of a white guy picture posted of after six is a black guy.

That was my horrible attempt at trying to say that he is untrustworthy so I would take the rope post with a grain of salt.  It's early, haven't had my internet coffee yet

Tydon Kommel wrote:

That was my horrible attempt at trying to say that he is untrustworthy so I would take the rope post with a grain of salt.  It's early, haven't had my internet coffee yet

Haha got you.  Ya internet sarcasm is often hard to detect.  Still confused why he returned a stuck rope of someone he never met before but steals partners cams.