Trax rubber

Ted Pinson wrote:

What you’re describing is edge for me.

It must be a body weight thing, as someone mentioned earlier.

I guess...I’m usually between 185-200 and generally prefer C4 most of the time.  I think climbing style makes a difference too.  I love Miuras because they feel like cheating on small edges, but I find my feet blow unexpectedly, especially on plastic.  With Anasazis (C4) I have to generate more of the edging power from my feet but I also get more response and end up climbing better.

In my anecdotal experience, I had a pair of shoes I exclusively wore in the gym resoled with C4 and then with Evolv's new Trax SAS and I didn't experience any difference in performance between them.  Gotta say I really love Trax SAS and XE and don't feel any need to get my shoes resoled anywhere other than Yosemite Bum, but I only wear Evolv's so I am used to the rubber.

Ma Ja wrote: Just to get multiple takes, I despise Trax rubber. Ask yourself a couple questions: Will I use these shoes in the gym on plastic holds?  Will I only use these as an outdoor shoe? If Yes to the first, Trax will certainly disappoint. If Yes to the second, you probably wont notice that much. Not sure why I've had trouble, but Trax in the gym is an epic fail for me. C4, Vibram Edge are excellent on plastic AND rock, Trax is not. My experience is there is a moment of warning when C4, and edge rubbers start to slip so you know you're coming off the wall. Trax is either on or off, with no warning, they just simply blow. That always made me climb worse, not knowing if i was going to slip off a hold at any moment. Just my 2c though, some people think it's great, obviously.

I didn't ask for your opinion on whether Trax is good or bad. I asked where to buy it.

CVRIV wrote:

I didn't ask for your opinion on whether Trax is good or bad. I asked where to buy it.

And I gave my opinion, whether you asked for it or not. Now we're in a serious predicament.

As long as we are giving opinions:-)

Last time to Yosemite I compared my new TC Pros against a pair of newly resoled Trax. Left foot TC Pro/Right foot Trax. It was same-same and same to me. Tried friction,, tiny ruggosites, edges...over here then over there...all same-same. Can't speak for gym climbing as I figure that would not matter...I mean, you're trying to get a work out so longerlasting is best. However, the Trax is the best for wet rock.  As noted upthread, Yosemite Bum would be the place to get it.

I suspect that if you ask 10 folks what they consider the best, you'll get at least 12 answers...all valid:-) Howerver, for buying the raw stuff, Yosemite Bum would be the place to get it if at all as it's not listed separately. ​https://www.yosemitebum.com/our-story-1​​​

CVRIV wrote:

I didn't ask for your opinion on whether Trax is good or bad. I asked where to buy it.

He was answering the question posted by the OP. I didnt think that was a crime. 

Billcoe wrote:

As long as we are giving opinions:-)

Last time to Yosemite I compared my new TC Pros against a pair of newly resoled Trax. Left foot TC Pro/Right foot Trax. It was same-same and same to me. Tried friction,, tiny ruggosites, edges...over here then over there...all same-same. Can't speak for gym climbing as I figure that would not matter...I mean, you're trying to get a work out so longerlasting is best. However, the Trax is the best for wet rock.  As noted upthread, Yosemite Bum would be the place to get it.

I suspect that if you ask 10 folks what they consider the best, you'll get at least 12 answers...all valid:-) Howerver, for buying the raw stuff, Yosemite Bum would be the place to get it if at all as it's not listed separately. https://www.yosemitebum.com/our-story-1

Came to say what has been said, the rubber is excellent in cold weather and wet rock. Hot slabs? Awful. Did the test yesterday, the Vibram kicked Trax' ass. 

m Mobes wrote:

Came to say what has been said, the rubber is excellent in cold weather and wet rock. Hot slabs? Awful. Did the test yesterday, the Vibram kicked Trax' ass. 

Yes XS edge is stiffer than Vibram therefore better in the summer on hot slabs.

Full disclosure: I support Evolv exclusively and am selling my TCP's and Mocs to buy a larger pair of Gennies and Addicts. No good replacement found yet for K-Laces, though.

Yesterday I went trail running in the Generals down Guppy Gully in the White Mountain of the Colorado River.

You might appeciate our three-part, 10,000' vertical foot review of POR LO GENERALLLLL  . TLDR is that Trax XE is stickier but less durable than XS Edge  . XS grip is silly sticky!

No incentivization here but if you like the jacket, BLEAT20 @ Loki  and tell them to keep the change. I'll donate my cut to anyone on MP because y'allerz are ballerz.

p.s. Yosemite Bum is the best resoler I have ever used.

Shoe and rubber don't matter nearly as much as some people think. It's more about consistent footwork and technique. I am able to climb equally poorly regardless of what shoe/rubber combination I'm using.