Partial Seasonal Closure of Peaks Crag due to Peregrine Nesting
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The US Forest Service has announced a partial seasonal closure starting April 1st of the Peaks Crag on Mt. Humphrey's due to Peregrine Falcon nesting. After discussions between the NAZCC and the USFS we convinced them to adopt our proposal of a partial closure rather than the full closure that was instituted last year. While we would prefer to end the practice of decreed closures for a species that has now been removed from the endangered species list for 20 years and has made a full recovery, in this case we consider this compromise a step in the right direction. |
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Ever wonder what it looks like when 47 people try to climb on 6 routes. Now is our chance ;) |
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Is it ok to climb Black Swan if you don't go any further left than that? |
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NAZCC says details are still in the works. The regular approach is closed and recommended approach is front Snowbowl via Kachina trail. Exact northern limit of closure to be decided, and signage rumored to be posted soon. |
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While we would prefer to end the practice of decreed closures for a species that has now been removed from the endangered species list for 20 years and has made a full recovery, in this case we consider this compromise a step in the right direction.It's disappointing to see that the NAZCC is taking an oppositional stance against seasonal raptor closures. As a voice for the climbing community, the NAZCC should be a voice cautioning climbers about their impact and be an advocate for conservation. There are multiple examples all over the country of climbers working with land managers to enforce seasonal bird closures and help monitor nest success. If we want to be stewards to the environment, it should be in a climber's interest to weigh the conservational stewardship against the sport. Though Peregrine falcons have made an impressive recovery, they have the right to have a safe place to nest and raise their young, regardless of their endangered status. I hope that in the future, the climbing community in Arizona can be stronger advocates for these cool birds. Openly snarky commentary from a organization representing local climbers is poor professionalism and certainly doesn't bode well for how climbers look to land managers. Jackson |
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I disagree completely. |
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A local of over a decade I know holds the stance that- "The birds were here before we were. They stayed when we came, they stayed when it was bolted, and they stayed when it went on mountain project." I think he makes a point. I am in support of the closures, but it doesnt make sense to close the whole crag when birds may only nest on one section of cliff. I know they favor the chossy section with few established (and fewer GOOD) climbs. Why not just close everything left of Whistle Stop? |
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Thats awesome .... all raptors need to nest in peace. Disturbance results in chilled/broken eggs. Regardless of endangered status...climbers need to stop the ME ME ME attitude, grow up and become stewards of the environment in which the recreate. Falcons are very site specific... ( needing certain heights, direction, shade, and quiet)....some aeries are known to be used for hundreds of years. There is huge risk by reducing the scope of restrictions... no young and or nest abandonment . Yes logic needs to dictate.... and science ( if you believe in science ...lol). Not spewing. |
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Peregrins lolz |
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Jack Quarless wrote: I disagree completely. Howdy Jack, If you think that climbing access takes priority above all else, including conservation and preservation efforts then there is a divided opinion within the climbing community. An important part ensuring future access is showing landmanagers that we are a responsible user group, conscious of and proactive towards minimizing our impact on the landscape. Its disheartening to hear opinions stating that we need to fight for access at all costs. I strongly feel that responsible development and self managment of climbing areas, including acknowledging and accounting for who we share the cliffs with should be the focus of our efforts to preserve access. |
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You are confusing fighting for access with environmental impact. It is disheartening hearing a climber so confused as to think that in order to minimize impact and work with land managers it is necessary to accept any and all restrictions because one group believes it. As stated above, the birds were there before and after the bolting, climbing, and publishing. You are just virtue signaling to win points in the how liberal can I be contest without really caring about the future of climbing. |
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Haha, oh man MP always delivers! |
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Robert Hernandez wrote: Let's be honest. Peregrins are annoying sky rats that are not endangered and are re populating just fine without human protection. Lou sounds like a maniac, conflating twleve issues at a time and getting it all wrong. Calling people posers, labeling anyone who disagrees with his emotional outbust as selfish and ignorant, he is a poster child for climbers own worst enemy. Don't be climbers own worst enemy. I take it you have never been dive bombed by one of them “sky rats”. Who gives a shit if they are or are not endangered. High up on the rock is their home and where they need to be to safely raise their young. Entitled climbers that feel that they have the right to encroach on them are the ignorant ones. Or they are just assholes |
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After I make the first Instagram live-streamed partial free ascent of Black Swan I'm going to rename it "Death to Sky Rats". Then I'll compose a dubstep song about it and play it on a loop 24/7 at the Peaks Crag. Cool? |
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So if we are going to close a crag for non endangered species I guess we aren’t going climbing anywhere because these falcons aren’t the only species that lives on cliffs. Where do you draw the line? |
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Partial cliff closure seems reasonable. Full closure seems a bit much. The middle road is how we can all win. What happens when their #'s are booming and they are nesting on all the cliffs though? There doesn't seem to be any good research on how to perform closures and I've read opposing information on how much space and time they need while nesting. Seems like it's mostly opinion based right now. |
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To anyone reading this thread, particularly the NAZ CC, I would like you to know that people who would call peregrines "sky rats" do not speak for me or the NAZ climbers who I associate with. And it's not surprising that those same voices are clamoring for bolts at The Forks. |
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Ivan, was it not painfully obvious that my comment was a joke? |