Rappelling on Petzl Spirit

I like to carry a long locking draw for various reasons, one of which is for use as a quick rappel extension device. Because of this I have it rigged with an Attache on the rope end but this makes it that much more bulky and I suppose possibly more likely to nose hook a bit during a fall on lead. Is the rope going to get bound up during rappel if I replace the attache with a locking spirit? It is a minor change but I am trying to keep things small and compact, as well as reduce snags on my crampons when I bend down. Easier to ask than get a clustered rope while I'm in a hurry to get down.

Why not put the attaché ‘rope side’ on the dogbone? Then extend like normal?

Round stock carabiners will last much longer than i-beam for rappelling and anything that will have the rope running over them.

I'd replace that attache with a small round stock biner. The spirit will work but not as smoothly as something with a larger/less angled rope bearing surface 

If you want to save on bulk stop carrying all the crap to extend your rappel.

You need one locking carabiner for any  regular climbing: For your belay/rappel device. That's it.

Harump - When you are rapping, don't you like to clip yourself in to each rap station with a locker?

acrophobe wrote: Harump - When you are rapping, don't you like to clip yourself in to each rap station with a locker?

Meh depends on the type of rappels. If it's ledgy it's usually just an alpine into a bolt.

1. acrophobe wrote: Harump - When you are rapping, don't you like to clip yourself in to each rap station with a locker?

No. I prefer 2 separate points of connection(slings) with standard carabiners.

Easier to unclip. Locking mechanism never gets stuck. Better redundancy.

PatMas wrote: Why not put the attaché ‘rope side’ on the dogbone? Then extend like normal?

I've caused confusion, the attache is normally on the rope end already unlike the picture I posted. So that said, it's still a big fat biner that I would like to replace with something small like a locking spirit or similar, if it doesn't bugger the rope during rappel mode. Obviously the spirit is preferred on the rope end when used as a quick draw.

MyFeetHurt wrote:

I've caused confusion, the attache is normally on the rope end already unlike the picture I posted. So that said, it's still a big fat biner that I would like to replace with something small like a locking spirit or similar, if it doesn't bugger the rope during rappel mode. Obviously the spirit is preferred on the rope end when used as a quick draw.

Gotcha, You could split the difference and go SMD? They rap fairly well and are a similar size to the Spirit, just a different shape

Harumpfster Boondoggle wrote: If you want to save on bulk stop carrying all the crap to extend your rappel.

You need one locking carabiner for any  regular climbing: For your belay/rappel device. That's it.

No lockers in your anchor setup? I like a large hms that I can clip a bunch of stuff on, I use a petzl William.

1. IDr Strangelove wrote:

No lockers in your anchor setup? I like a large hms that I can clip a bunch of stuff on, I use a petzl William.

Big wall, sure.

Zero need for lockers in an anchor when free climbing. But, I do always sit on a weighted clove (nearly impossible to come unclipped) and tie in twice.