Mastercam vs BD x4

245.70 for 4 cams from epic including the shipping, so 61.25 per cam delivered. thanks for the link. i have a set on order

Travis Provin wrote:FYI, Totem Basics are in stock and available at the Epic TV Shop (ships to USA from UK) shop.epictv.com/en/cams-nut… I just picked up the first three sizes!

They actually ship from France to keep the costs down.

Another vote for Totem Basics. I have a blue and a green and they're easily my favorites on my rack. They fit really well in strange placements and they don't walk!

i got my set of basics from epic today via ups. great service for those thinking of buying from them.

Mine also arrived, they look great! Can't wait to use them this weekend!

I got my umpa lumpa from the Wonka Factory today. I can't wait to start using him for everything from belay backup to rappel backup to adding some dynamics to my anchors. I'm gonna factor 2 the Fack out of everything.

Travis Provin wrote: Mine also arrived, they look great! Can't wait to use them this weekend!

Travis! Buddy! What’s up? Miss climbing with ya, man. Still in FoCo until next year—then big move eastward. Just stumbled across this old thread when looking up cam stuff. How’d the Totems work out? Have you been getting in much time on gear? I figure others wouldn’t mind hearing whether you have any review notes on the Totems after having them for a couple years.  Hope things are going well!

Mastercams are the best in this category (4 lobe, single axle, narrow head unit). They are more durable than any cam on the market (way more durable than alien style cams like totem basic or fixe aliens, and way more durable than the amazing aid climbing tool totem cams).  and Metolius is absolutely the best USA gear company that ever existed from service to design. X4s are squeekey messes of a cam, the offset axle is cool but adds very little range and. The added range of 1 extra master cam on your rack will solve the issue of overall rack range and with a careful eye you will be able to place the mastercams without having placement range issues. I love mastercams. They strike a balance in the hardness of alloy in the lobes (not too soft not too hard). They are really light, extremely durable and extremely fixable. I send mine away to Metolious every year and they come back looking absolutley brand new, They are sent through an ultrasonic cleaning, bead polisher, replaced rubber, slings and triggerwires for 11 dollars... pretty fucking awesome also you will get your cams back quickly and they usually throw in some sort of gift/stickers or something. I even asked for a T-shirt when I sent in 22 cams and they gave me a T-shirt. Support metolius! they are really good 

Master cam

Mike Mu. wrote: here is some advice. Buy totems--they will cost you some coin but so will the X4s at retail. There is a reason so many rave about the totems

Where does one buy said totems......

Totems are for aid climbers

Travis Bieber wrote: Totems are for aid climbers

How do you figure that?

Eric Danner wrote:

Where does one buy said totems......

https://www.dicksclimbing.com/collections/hardware/products/totem-cams

Travis Bieber wrote: Totems are for aid climbers

And Bieber is for singing 

Piotr Sobczak wrote:

And Bieber is for singing 

Wow never heard that one before. Real original