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Stiff new rope....!!!

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419
Petroclimbsagain wrote: You could always set up a top-rope, and test to see if the rope is dynamic or not.  A new dynamic 60 M rope will stretch ~3-4 M when loaded with body-weight.  

Thats a whole lot more helpful than your poor hard to understand. . . .humor?( if that was what that  comment was), 

 but

 it seems to me that the rope is a strange weave, not sure that it is in any way 'dynamic,

&

 I doubt it has any value in absorbing/dissipating  the energy  (thru elasticity) generated in a lead fall.

No amount of my trying to explain this will effect those here on this site, it is the divide of iprivilege then of arrogance that seperates 1st world & all the rest of the world, but. . .  

That rope is maybe ok for climbing with. But your thoughts of finding used expedition gear is a better call, look for a smooth and continuous feel, no flat spots fuzzy sheaths that have been used to haul, drag or cross streams are hard to judge, so should be cheapest

  on another note, the stooges on here,  who are mostly the affulent entitled, with computers and yearly incomes are spoiled un-worldly and completely out of line on this thread.


I have already pointed this thread out to a German friend, His comment was that you need to get in touch with the expedition outfitters in your country.
Try to offer to help(in any way you can, offer to house a sick -ish or slow from altitude  climber)) in exchange for anything.  The tourist/climbers, they,( I included) always liked to travel light and pass on ropes & gear to locals.

gotta go Ill be back

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
Michael Schneider wrote:

Thats a whole lot more helpful than your poor hard to understand. . . .humor?( if that was what that  comment was), 

 but

 it seems to me that the rope is a strange weave, not sure that it is in any way 'dynamic,

&

 I doubt it has any value in absorbing/dissipating  the energy  (thru elasticity) generated in a lead fall.

No amount of my trying to explain this will effect those here on this site, it is the divide of iprivilege then of arrogance that seperates 1st world & all the rest of the world, but. . .  

That rope is maybe ok for climbing with. But your thoughts of finding used expedition gear is a better call, look for a smooth and continuous feel, no flat spots fuzzy sheaths that have been used to haul, drag or cross streams are hard to judge, so should be cheapest

  on another note, the stooges on here,  who are mostly the affulent entitled, with computers and yearly incomes are spoiled un-worldly and completely out of line on this thread.


I have already pointed this thread out to a German friend, His comment was that you need to get in touch with the expedition outfitters in your country.
Try to offer to help(in any way you can, offer to house a sick -ish or slow from altitude  climber)) in exchange for anything.  The tourist/climbers, they,( I included) always liked to travel light and pass on ropes & gear to locals.

gotta go Ill be back

i just bought this rope and its going to take some time saving enough money to buy another one....!!!!  can i use this one for climbs where there is no chance for free fall? just for safety... where slope level is like 60-70 degrees? I'll surely try to find a proper rope meanwhile 

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419
Aanif Zia Taimuri wrote:

i just bought this rope and its going to take some time saving enough money to buy another one....!!!!  can i use this one for climbs where there is no chance for free fall? just for safety... where slope level is like 60-70 degrees? I'll surely try to find a proper rope meanwhile 

Well? the ideal circumstance , a clear good weather day, when things like rock fall /avalanche danger is low, & if the objective is well within reason, then yes, As I was trying to explain. The use of old (discarded by an expedition style group)  dedicated -proper made by a reputable climbing gear manufacturer,  would be as good, &  better if anything were to suddenly require any sort of dynamic, (stretchy to absorb force), so to not rip protection, if that makes sense to your use? 

most snow ice rock, alpine ascents will expose you to risk, your skill as a climber is your best safety gear, given the questionable quality, the old way is the best way to proceed

The Leader MUST NOT FALL.

always be in control :able to down climb, retreat safely.

Nick Niebuhr · · CO · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 465

I don't know where specifically you are in Pakistan but maybe you could find somebody who's going there to climb, and see if they would bring a rope out for you?

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
Michael Schneider wrote:

Well? the ideal circumstance , a clear good weather day, when things like rock fall /avalanche danger is low, & if the objective is well within reason, then yes, As I was trying to explain. The use of old (discarded by an expedition style group)  dedicated -proper made by a reputable climbing gear manufacturer,  would be as good, &  better if anything were to suddenly require any sort of dynamic, (stretchy to absorb force), so to not rip protection, if that makes sense to your use? 

most snow ice rock, alpine ascents will expose you to risk, your skill as a climber is your best safety gear, given the questionable quality, the old way is the best way to proceed

The Leader MUST NOT FALL.

always be in control :able to down climb, retreat safely.

Thank you so much sir for the help....!!! ll surely buy a dynamic rope as soon as I can, meanwhile I'll put a pause to lead climbing....!!!
Hope to see in you in Pakistan in future.....!!!

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
Nick Niebuhr wrote: I don't know where specifically you are in Pakistan but maybe you could find somebody who's going there to climb, and see if they would bring a rope out for you?

I'm not sure how will I get in contact with a climber who is going to visit Pakistan...!!!??? any ideas?

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276
Aanif Zia Taimuri wrote:

I'm not sure how will I get in contact with a climber who is going to visit Pakistan...!!!??? any ideas?

http://www.alpineclub.org.pk/

http://www.alpineclub.org.pk/contact.shtml

http://www.rockclimbing.pk/

Don't know if these organizations are still in existence, but they seem like somewhere for you to check out.

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419

Aanif, I saw this and hope it helps Good luck I'll see if I can find an Old "New" still in it plastic packaging & a factory coil, (which is bad)
 but the experts here will chime in about that if you get one then you can worry about it.

Ben Pellerin · · Spaceship Earth · Joined Mar 2018 · Points: 0

Hey man I sent you a pm. Did you get it? Hit me back

Rodney P · · Ouray,CO · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 335

Sell the gopro, buy a rope!! ;)

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419
Rodney P wrote: Sell the gopro, buy a rope!! ;)

 he can not get a rope!

 that is why he joined up &  because he knew the china junk is scary AF

 it is not that hard to understand

Climb On · · Everywhere · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 0

Gunkiemike has a rope if people can pull together for shipping.

ETA it’s ocer on the ted sends thread but I’m not smart enough to link it on my mobile

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,732
Adrienne DiRosario wrote: Gunkiemike has a rope if people can pull together for shipping.

ETA it’s over on the ted sends thread but I’m not smart enough to link it on my mobile

Scroll down this page.

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/114471934/ted-sends?page=3

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
Ben Pellerin wrote: Hey man I sent you a pm. Did you get it? Hit me back

Yes i got it, Sorry it went to the junk mail folder. sorry for the late reply

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
Michael Schneider wrote:
Aanif, I saw this and hope it helps Good luck I'll see if I can find an Old "New" still in it plastic packaging & a factory coil, (which is bad)
 but the experts here will chime in about that if you get one then you can worry about it.



I found their facebook page. I'll contact them asap.

Im Sorry · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 20

Massage it...with both hands

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
Rodney P wrote: Sell the gopro, buy a rope!! ;)

Well this is embarrassing for me... That is not a go pro. its a Chinese action cam. costs around 11$.... 

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
Adrienne DiRosario wrote: Gunkiemike has a rope if people can pull together for shipping.

ETA it’s ocer on the ted sends thread but I’m not smart enough to link it on my mobile

I'm not sure how much is the shipping cost to Pakistan.

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
Christian B wrote: Massage it...with both hands

I'll try that out... btw.. found out it's static a rope

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
Ben Pellerin wrote: Hey man I sent you a pm. Did you get it? Hit me back

check your email, whenever possible....

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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