New BD Camalot

Sam Miller wrote: ^why would BD radically change something that works perfectly. I dont see what's wrong with  refining and improving a great product. If people want a totem style design they can buy totems.

That's why I'm going to double up my totems with these new BD cams and finally sell off my old metal heads

Briggs Lazalde wrote:

Well if that radical change was an improvement you wouldnt buy? Have humans not progressed in every aspect of life by taking something that works and making it better? Change is not always a bad thing. At work our computers run a program that was developed almost 15 years ago...this causes major delays and hiccups every single day when our tech cant keep up with the real world...our boss's excuse: "it works plus we invested too much money into it" yea it works but there are options to explore and they might even improve your life. just have to have an open mind.

You dont consider significantly reduced weight and trigger latches an improvement? 

Briggs Lazalde wrote:

You could still use that to plug your dogs leash into the wall at ur local crag while you deal with mounting the music speaker to the drone

Your pup Summit couldn't pull that out if he tried!

Sam Miller wrote:

You dont consider significantly reduced weight and trigger latches an improvement? 

Not til the cam places itself and builds you a hanging belay.

It's a product update that imoroves upon the current design without taking anything away. Anything else would be an entirety new product (don't get me wrong, I'd be stoked on a new BD cam design for sure!)

I hope you realise that the Totem Cam design is well and truly patented.

I'm sure BD, DMM and many other companies would like to implement their version of the design but they cannot without breaching Totem's patent.

Nate Tastic wrote: Tags tucked away?

Looks like I'll be selling my almost new rack for a new rack. 

Yup, new gear always makes you a better climber. 

Nate Tastic wrote:

I keep hearing this yet I still suck, what gives?

Guess you just havn't bought enough yet. 

Nate Tastic wrote: Tags tucked away?

I cut my tags off and finally started sending those 5.7 routes.  The weight savings made all the difference!!

Briggs Lazalde wrote: Significant improvement no. Innovative, no. Game changing, no. A little bit convenient, yes, but that is negated by the fact that its an entire nother purchase. The new cams will not change anything. Sorry. You will not find yourself saying "now I can climb that route without getting run out due to the updated cam design

As many people have said, this is an improvement to an existing design. If it were a different design, it would be a different product. No cams change anything, everyone's just having a bit of fun, and surviving long enough to come back and shitpost on mountainproject another day because they had cams that did their job. 

You don't have to be excited for new gear, but that doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to either. 

Rob T wrote:

You should get some Totems, I hear they’re guaranteed to get you up to “awkward 5.8, but my friend says it’s way harder”. 

5 black totems and 4 pink tricams will get you up pretty much anything...

Matt Pierce wrote:

5 black totems and 4 pink tricams will get you up pretty much anything...

Skill to climb 5.15 will get you up pretty much anything too...

Briggs Lazalde wrote: Ps ive kept my tags on my orange and green to totem for 30+ placements since purchasing new....its the new boujee thing to do. Much like keeping the tags on sunglasses. Sent air guitar at vantage...people were yelling.."dude your tags....they're still on!!!!" I was yelling down, yea!!!!....I know!!!....

It's a 5.9 with totems bro.......well actually really just a 5.9 any way you chop it. 

Kinda cool as I remember playing around with the Cam-Keeper, a product designed by a couple here in Fort Collins about 5 years ago.  At the time I thought it would be a tough product to sell on its own, but that eventually a major manufacturer would pick up the idea/technology and integrate it into the larger cams.  

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65-120 Euros or USD$75-140 glad they are keeping our wallets in mind with a ~20% price bump.

master gumby wrote: 65-120 Euros or USD$75-140 glad they are keeping our wallets in mind with a ~20% price bump.

They're more expensive in Europe than in the US, by more than the currency conversion, due to tariffs and the costs of shipping them across the Atlantic. Same as DMM, Petzl, Edelrid, La Sportiva, etc etc etc products are more expensive in the US than in Europe.

Noah Yetter wrote:

They're more expensive in Europe than in the US, by more than the currency conversion, due to tariffs and the costs of shipping them across the Atlantic. Same as DMM, Petzl, Edelrid, La Sportiva, etc etc etc products are more expensive in the US than in Europe.

Exactly.

You'd think people would realize that given the release of the Camalot Ultralights, which are more expensive in Europe than in the USA, was relatively recent.

Often in Europe the listed prices include the tax.
Depending which store/country you can get a receipt to get a tax refund at the airport.
For example, in France you can get a 20% tax refund at the airport, makes a big difference when in Quebec we add 15% to the listed prices in the stores.