New Climbing Center in Yosemite Valley

King Tut wrote:

more convenient for themselves

Boom! 

F*ck convenience in climbing. 

I have a way better experience when shits hard, gotta figure stuff out // VS. studying ST or MP reading about everybody’s climb, what gear they used, where they used it, how to do the crux move etc blah blah blah. 

In addition Climber traffic on the walls hasn't changed much in the last couple of decades.  I collected 1 data set in 2003 on climber traffic on El Capitan and compared to 1993 and 1983 there was no significant change in number of parties on the wall.  Over the past 15 years traffic has increased slightly but most of that increase is due to NIAD.  Other wise the ark service would have instituted a permit system foe bivying on the wall. Since traffic hasn't changed much they have not needed to do so.

As an old Valley regular it pains me to see suggestions of a gym in The Ditch. Leave that shit for the city.

Beyond that, a museum would be cool. Didn't the Mountain Shop used to have some displays? Expand that. End of story.

T Roper wrote:

Zip Lines from the top of Half Dome to Curry, Top of El Cap to the Meadow, Top of East Butt of Middle to the Meadow, Top of Sentinel to the floor, Top of Camp 4 wall to Camp 4, Top of Washington Column to Lower Pines, and top of Serenity Sons and Royal Arches to the Ahwahnee Swimming Pool would make the Valley into a darn near perfect experience. 

kevin deweese wrote:

Zip Lines from the top of Half Dome to Curry, Top of El Cap to the Meadow, Top of East Butt of Middle to the Meadow, Top of Sentinel to the floor, Top of Camp 4 wall to Camp 4, Top of Washington Column to Lower Pines, and top of Serenity Sons and Royal Arches to the Ahwahnee Swimming Pool would make the Valley into a darn near perfect experience. 

Those would be awfully steep zip lines. How do you mitigate the splat at the end?

kevin deweese wrote:

Zip Lines from the top of Half Dome to Curry, Top of El Cap to the Meadow, Top of East Butt of Middle to the Meadow, Top of Sentinel to the floor, Top of Camp 4 wall to Camp 4, Top of Washington Column to Lower Pines, and top of Serenity Sons and Royal Arches to the Ahwahnee Swimming Pool would make the Valley into a darn near perfect experience. 

Glacier point onto the pizza deck. 

Marc801 C wrote:

Those would be awfully steep zip lines. How do you mitigate the splat at the end?

Big giant inflated pads of course. Some Karl Malone style training parachutes for those who dont like the speed.

Marc801 C wrote:

Those would be awfully steep zip lines. How do you mitigate the splat at the end?

Wait long enough each day and enough bodies will pile up that you can use their carcases as landing pads. 

T Roper wrote:

Big giant inflated pads of course. Some Karl Malone style training parachutes for those who dont like the speed.

Thank you for those mental images!

kevin deweese wrote:

Wait long enough each day and enough bodies will pile up that you can use their carcases as landing pads. 

Oooo. A squishy splat with the possibility of being impaled by a bone! Where do I sign up?

Marc801 C wrote:

Oooo. A squishy splat with the possibility of being impaled by a bone! Where do I sign up?

here! https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/673/456/896/

kevin deweese wrote:

here! https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/673/456/896/

DID YOU DO THAT??!!!!

EFFING BRILLIANT!

signed....

Something needs to be done in Yosemite and other national parks (e.g., Zion's Canyon), I don't know what, to solve the over-crowding problem.

Taylor Parkin wrote:

Something needs to be done in Yosemite and other national parks (e.g., Zion's Canyon), I don't know what, to solve the over-crowding problem.

We need MORE people to visit National Parks so that more know what is at stake. Yosemite Valley is in better environmental shape than it was in the 70's. And the 70's were better than when sheep grazed there.

More people experiencing National Parks is how you get support for Bear's Ears etc...not by making people stay home.

Taylor Parkin wrote:

Something needs to be done in Yosemite and other national parks (e.g., Zion's Canyon), I don't know what, to solve the over-crowding problem.

Do you have a brother named Spencer? 

And it's Zion, not Zion's, btw.

I personally think Sloan has a great idea.  I am a personal trainer that has not been to Yosemite yet, but my brother has been living there for 2 years climbing almost every day.  I think having a gym dedicated to climbers would be great.  Maybe not one for indoor climbing, but one that will help the athlete perform better than they are now.  What climber doesn't want to get better at climbing?  If there was a gym to work on techniques, strength training, stabilization, and endurance, it could move things to the next level.  Something like that being indoors during the winter would be beneficial in my opinion.  What do you guys think??  

Gabriel Seefoo wrote:

I personally think Sloan has a great idea.  I am a personal trainer that has not been to Yosemite yet, but my brother has been living there for 2 years climbing almost every day.  I think having a gym dedicated to climbers would be great.  Maybe not one for indoor climbing, but one that will help the athlete perform better than they are now.  What climber doesn't want to get better at climbing?  If there was a gym to work on techniques, strength training, stabilization, and endurance, it could move things to the next level.  Something like that being indoors during the winter would be beneficial in my opinion.  What do you guys think??  

...that there's 8 previous pages stating why this idea is moronic and wrong. Try taking a look at them.

Marc801 C wrote:

And it's Zion, not Zion's, btw.

Marc. Stop patrolling... Please!