Near Miss on Cathedral Peak

Mike Robinson wrote:

yep, that sums it up

Yeah, if you two both completely ignore that he's not climbing in a vacuum.  

The splatting alone might be no big deal, but what about the splatting into others/knocking rocks down with his drag-toy? 

You can tell the guy is enjoying this fame, some of his more recent videos he's got a little smug grin during his gopro selfie session.  Classic.

Mike Robinson wrote:

yeah...seen it and didn't ruin my day.  No one cares about you EMS stories Andrew...and...yes...I am a sociopath..If you truely climb hard, which I doubt, You've dealt with death as related to the sport...it's just something that can happen when people push they're own physical and mental limits...that's pioneering...people always die when they push boundries...you can stand behind the lines, be forgotten, and make judgements all you want tho.

yikes, well. I'm not sure if you are trolling or not, but even to troll this kind of thing says a lot about how little you care for yours or others physical and mental well being. 

rafael wrote:

yikes, well. I'm not sure if you are trolling or not, but even to troll this kind of thing says a lot about how little you care for yours or others physical and mental well being. 

I would try and help the guy no matter what but if he were to peel that's his problem. Falling while soloing is voluntary suicide and I have no sympathy. It wouldn't ruin my day and I would continue to climb, in his honor of course. Wouldn't a real climber want his brethren to send despite his misfortune?

There was at least one person who was rather new to multi-pitch out there and I believe there was another climber who was having her first outdoor experience.  Seeing a major injury or death can ruin the fun of climbing (at its only beginning for them).  That said, climbing is inherently dangerous and people should understand this.

I aided in the rescue of a fallen climber a few years back.  One girl in my group was terrified of climbing but her friends convinced her to give it a try.  After the accident (and eventual death) the girl understandably stopped climbing.  However, I've kept climbing after the climbers death...  In other words, people react differently to rock climbing accidents.

Free soloing can be viewed selfish in terms of one accident potentially ruining the experience of others.  On the flip side, not letting people free solo for fear of an accident is also selfish.  

Mike Brady wrote:

Why is it that the washed up never were's are always the biggest blow hards. I'm sure you are at the forefront and will never be forgotten.

from his posts i thought he was twelve years old or something.  pretty disappointed to see he is almost 80.  man, he is hard as nails - look at that tick list!

Mike Robinson wrote:

yes they are....especially in Eldo

yeah?  curious what you have climbed in eldo.  maybe bomb, or stepped it up to breezy?  lolz...

slim wrote:

yeah?  curious what you have climbed in eldo.  maybe bomb, or stepped it up to breezy?  lolz...

naked edge, vertigo, works up..etc...not sure what u mean by bomb..breezy?

Mason Stone wrote:

Death is the outcome of life. Why does trauma bother some of us while not others? 

What this thread teaches:

Live the way you want to live, just take care not to infringe on the rights of others. Gong splat in front of someone is infringing, as mentioned above especially if it is preventable, while others might not be bothered quite so much, in fact to some it may be entertaining. Just don't expect pity if through your own carelessness you go splat. Caveat, some people may help you even if you are careless.

I agree with most of this...but what about peoples right to free solo? Is it only acceptable to free solo in secluded areas?  

Mike Robinson wrote:

I agree with most of this...but what about peoples right to free solo? Is it only acceptable to free solo in secluded areas?  

The right to free solo is absolute, the Supreme Court of the United States deemed it free speech in Candy Ass v. Free Spirit.

Tradiban wrote:

The right to free solo is absolute, the Supreme Court of the United States deemed it free speech in Candy Ass v. Free Spirit.

Unless, of course, your right to free solo infringes on the right of a corporation to do whatever the hell it wants. In which case the SC will side with them.

AndrewArroz wrote:

Unless, of course, your right to free solo infringes on the right of a corporation to do whatever the hell it wants. In which case the SC will side with them.

Falsely calling "I own all your bold flash" in a crowded crag is not protected by the constitution

It looks like hes is back at it.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC8azJ6G5EQ

Canyoneering seems like a good sport for that guy.

Why rap off a single line on that drop he used another rope?  Why not just rap off both lines.  Am I missing something?

Kevin Mokracek wrote:

Why rap off a single line on that drop he used another rope?  Why not just rap off both lines.  Am I missing something?

To complicate things...

Kevin Mokracek wrote:

Why rap off a single line on that drop he used another rope?  Why not just rap off both lines.  Am I missing something?

the other line is a small diameter pull-cord. 

new video is good, much safer than the other videos he's shown. he's even using  a prusik backup on his rappels!

Nick Drake, have you seen this guy?  Look at that rap on the single line...I guess the knot is big enough (and then the carabiner) not to slip through the link...but hell, if it started to, or some dumb thing happened to the carabiner (like funkily opening--though I assume its locked--and then dropping the tag line)...I guess he could have clipped the biner to the rap line, and eliminated any chance of failure and then still pulled the tag line...seems weird though.

DAMN DANIEL.... BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH MECHANIC GLOVES!

Damn i just read through all 10 pages and this jackass never even had the courtesy to make an appearance. 

TravisJBurke wrote:

Nick Drake, have you seen this guy?  Look at that rap on the single line...I guess the knot is big enough (and then the carabiner) not to slip through the link...but hell, if it started to, or some dumb thing happened to the carabiner (like funkily opening--though I assume its locked--and then dropping the tag line)...I guess he could have clipped the biner to the rap line, and eliminated any chance of failure and then still pulled the tag line...seems weird though.

There's at least one thread on this rappelling method (https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/107988024/reepschnur-rappel-inquiry). Apparently the idea is that you can rappel the full length of your lead line and use a pull line that's not suitable for rappelling by itself (damaged, too thin to start with, etc.).