Training gloves for climbing?
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The gym i climb at to try and keep in shape, is AC challenged. As a consequence, my hands get sweaty and I start sliding off holds. I don't much like chalk, either on my hands, or stopping to try and chalk up when I'm trying to climb. |
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IMHO can't imagine gloves would be too helpful for reducing sweaty palm syndrome. Your still going to sweat between your gloves and your hands. Probably more so. They might help a little with jug hauling but crimps, pinches and slopers will probably be much harder. |
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psakievich wrote:IMHO can't imagine gloves would be too helpful for reducing sweaty palm syndrome. Your still going to sweat between your gloves and your hands. Probably more so. They might help a little with jug hauling but crimps, pinches and slopers will probably be much harder.What I was looking at are tight fitting, stretchy things with nubby palms, and almost no fingers. They're meant for weight lifting, which I would think would be a pretty critical grip. And it's not sweaty palm syndrome, it's too stinkin' hot. Everything's sweating! I'm just hoping for grip without chalk. |
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You could try iontophoresis. |
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I hear what you're saying. I guess the big difference is in weigh lifting you are almost always grabbing the same diameter bar where in climbing the holds and grip positions vary dramatically. When I used weight training gloves in high school it was mainly to prevent flappers, but I guess grip is more important in Olympic style stuff which has become so popular so maybe the gloves are different now. Try it and let us know how it turns out. |
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Have u tried the new Unicorn Dandruff? (Unicorn Dust). Expensive super chalk, way overpriced. Use it in a chalk sock to avoid chalking the backs of your hands. Gloves suck for climbing, and may only prevent u from drying off the whole hand. Add a big industrial fan at the base and cool off between climbs. |
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Gloves probably won't work well, but go ahead and try it; what do you have to lose? |
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I was trying to find a solution for climbing outside, I have a bit of hyperhidrosis and mid summer it can make holding slopers impossible. I didn't want to try antihydral because of reports of split fingers, glassy skin, etc.. |
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Mark E Dixon wrote:You could try iontophoresis. rockclimberstrainingmanual.…If you hooked it up to a car battery, you could just blow your skin off. No problemo! |
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Thanks for all the thoughtful replies. If I get some gloves, I'll let you know how it goes. I need to do some belay gloves shopping, anyway, so I'll try to get out and poke around soon. |
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I concur that liquid chalk works very well, but if you can't stand the feel of regular chalk you definitely won't like the liquid version. This is going to sound rediculous, but i seem to recall someone who didn't like chalk carying a hand towel clipped to their harness. |
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Nick Drake wrote:I didn't want to try antihydral because of reports of split fingers, glassy skin, etc..In the hot months, I use one of the prescription-only antihydrals as a supplement to chalk. And you're absolutely right! Overuse of the stuff can result in all of those things. I way overdid it at first. Using a prescription strength antihydral, can a climber get his or her hands and such to the point where they don't sweat? Yes. Is it a good methodology? Probably not. Counterproductive, even, as you've heard. To anyone considering a prescription antihydral, I've found that using the antihydral sparingly as a supplement to chalk, and not the other way, works well for me. I still sweat from my palms, fingers, and wrists (often overlooked as a source of much sweat), but it's a fair bit better. And now that it's starting to cool off, I'll put away the prescription stuff until next year. |
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Old lady H wrote:I've heard of liquid chalk, but never seen anyone using it. So, I always assumed it was just a way to convert a relatively cheap material into an expensive one. How do you go about it?You're right, it's quite expensive if you buy it pre-made, but luckily it's super cheap to make it yourself, and you likely already have all of the materials anyhow! There are some tutorials online about how to make it, with exact measurements of each ingredient and scientific instructions; a google search will pull those up. Climbing isn't scientific, so I just wing it. Here's what I do: Take a bag of regular ol' loose climbing chalk and break up the chunks as best you can. Grab a sifter and sift the chalk through into a big mixing bowl. You just want the real fine stuff for this, and the sifter allows you to put the chunks back into the bag and crush them up some more without making a mess. Add some isopropyl alcohol to the chalk and stir. Your goal is to get a consistency of a thick, creamy soup; add chalk or alcohol accordingly until it's right. I store mine in one of those little nalgene squirt bottles you can get at REI or wherever for a buck. Shake before use, coat palms, let dry, then go send. It feels a little weird at first, but you'll forget it's there once it drys and you start climbing. If you don't have any of the materials, it should cost about $6 and will make a TON. I do small batches; a little goes a long way. Side note: Make sure you use at least the 70% isopropyl stuff. The 90%+ is better (drys faster), but if you have 70 on hand it'll work too. I also hear you on the gym temp thing. My gym has GIANT heaters that are on full blast the minute it gets below 60F outside. Really sucks when you're working hard, especially at the top of the lead cave. All those 0% body fat sissies can go put a coat on while they chat... |
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Thanks a bunch, Aaron! I'll try it when I get time. Maybe I'll start a trend! I'll hunt around for the gloves, too. |
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Has anyone tried putting antiperspirant on the hands, followed by chalk? |
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FWIW, I've been using antihydral about once a week (tips only) and have been really happy with the callus it creates. |
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Try a product called an Eco Ball. They're a non chalk alternstive that doesn't produce as much dust dust or coat your hands like chalk dose. I used them for years in norther MN where there is a no chalk ethic, they work pretty well too. |
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Mark E Dixon wrote:FWIW, I've been using antihydral about once a week (tips only) and have been really happy with the callus it creates. I don't have much trouble with sweaty hands, but my tips get soft pretty easily, so keeping them tough is really helpful for comfort on small crimpers.The only thing that helps me on small crimpers is to consider them footholds and cop a hand hold offa something else! I actually almost bought the gloves I was thinking of this week, but the other stuff I wanted wasn't there, and I didn't want to stand in line. Sorta irrelevant. I haven't climbed anywhere, in or out, for too long. Finally got out today, managed to make it up a 5.5ish-5.7 (with a minimal bit of cheating), on top rope no less. So grateful I cried. :-) So, she's not out of the game yet! Yay. H. |
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Chad Miller wrote:Try a product called an Eco Ball. They're a non chalk alternstive that doesn't produce as much dust dust or coat your hands like chalk dose. I used them for years in norther MN where there is a no chalk ethic, they work pretty well too.Thanks, Chad! |
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No one who lifts weights with any seriousness wears gloves. Powerlifters and Olympic lifters use chalk, just like climbers. |
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Antihydral. Skin gets thick and glassy. Sand skin. Texture plus tough and thin skin that is still sensitive to touch. Goal is tough but thin skin. |