Backing up the Cinch

Since we all know the cinch is prone to failure at the worst time, I found an awesome way to back it up. What do you think? Super duper safe right?

'Slack'
'...um'
'SLACK!'
'...'
'I SAID SLACK!! NOW!'
'...'
'FALLING!'

'Ok. Just lower me.'
'hmm...give me a minute'

Strongly suggest to add a munter mule. 'cause there's no such a thing as too much safety.

You forgot that for 100% safety there needs to be several Purcell prusiks in the system somewhere.

Eric is going to be so psyched about this redundency

Matt Carroll wrote:Eric is going to be so psyched about this redundency

He'll be psyched but never actually use it since he doesn't actually climb.

Marc801 wrote:You forgot that for 100% safety there needs to be several Purcell prusiks in the system somewhere.

Alternatively you could just throw a few clove hitches on lockers and attach them all to your forward most gear loop for easy access.

Firestone wrote: Alternatively you could just throw a few clove hitches on lockers and attach them all to your forward most gear loop for easy access.

But the Purcell's would reduce the impact force by 0.1kN - obviously that's much safer.

Why not just use a really burly belayer with lots of neck meat?

Shouldn't the belayer be wearing three separate harnesses, one for each device?

Or maybe it would be more dynamic if he extended each device with a double tether?

Or could you just use the EMacrame clove hitch/rap ring/three point system?

Mark E Dixon wrote:Shouldn't the belayer be wearing three separate harnesses, one for each device?

I prefer to climb with quad ropes and four belayers.

Lulz ... this whole thread is close to violating RULE #1 ;)

Folks, its all about safety. Do you even practice safety? I'm out being safe right now, when I get back from being safe I'll post more about safety. I'n the meantime I suggest reading every piece of literature front to back(google will translate the languages for you) that Petzl has ever written if you really want to be safe.

T Roper wrote:I'n the meantime I suggest reading every piece of literature front to back(google will translate the languages for you) that Petzl has ever written if you really want to be safe.

Dude! You forgot the most important bit of advice: take a class in advanced macrame!

I prefer the Umpa 1 for the most reliable backup. Compatible with all belay devices.

Usually the catastrophic failure using a Cinch is operator error.
Pretty much the same thing with a grigri.

Since its a regional norm around here, maybe we could get the government to step in and ban unsafe belaying. That should help.

Marc801 wrote:You forgot that for 100% safety there needs to be several Purcell prusiks in the system somewhere.

What about the Rosco P. Coltrane prusik?

Steve Williams wrote:Usually the catastrophic failure using a Cinch is operator error. Pretty much the same thing with a grigri.

Wait.
Are you trying to interject a serious reply in this particular thread?
What is wrong with you?

Steve Williams wrote:Usually the catastrophic failure using a Cinch is operator error. Pretty much the same thing with a grigri.

Steve Williams wrote:Usually the catastrophic failure using a Cinch is operator error. Pretty much the same thing with a grigri.

Was there not enough sarcasm dripping from this thread for you to pick up on?