dogs in lone peak cirque

are they allowed up there - saw one running around the base of lone peak below some seriously epic'ing climbers on open book. Seems like a really fucking stupid idea to me, great way to fuck up the water supply and scare off wildlife

also there's an abandoned tent full of garbage on Jacobs Ladder trail. I didn't have a pack big enough to pack it out so I dragged it as far as i could until it started to rip.

WTF?

Three thumbs down.

Dogs are allowed in the cirque... However they aren't allowed up the Jacobs ladder approach anymore due to new watershed restrictions in Draper. The cirque does not deposit in the draper watershed, thus is not restricted. I'd honestly be more worried about the irrisponsible hikers shitting than the dogs. Climbers should know better...

MFL wrote:are they allowed up there - saw one running around the base of lone peak

Yes, dogs are allowed. What was the problem??

MFL wrote: below some seriously epic'ing climbers on open book.

An epic on the Open Book. What was the problem??

MFL wrote: also there's an abandoned tent full of garbage on Jacobs Ladder trail. I didn't have a pack big enough to pack it out so I dragged it as far as i could until it started to rip.

Nice you brought it part way down.

Here is the info on Jacob's Ladder and dogs: draper.ut.us/index.aspx?NID…

Curious what the epic was?

Let's see...
Dogs at Lone Peak messing up the water shed and running around.
People leaving tents, leaving garbage, and having some sort of epic.
Seems like dogs and people are generally a bad idea at Lone Peak.

i'm just really surprised dogs are allowed in wilderness areas. for some reason i thought it was a blanket law that they aren't allowed. i kept my mouth shut as i wasn't sure of the law

hopefully someone was able to pack out that tent. It was starting to spill shit trying to carry it out in my arms.

no real epic, just taking forever

Either way, we need to start respecting out wilderness areas here. SLC is growing rapidly as is climbing in general. either it will get worse or something will have to give

not trolling - just visualizing an Indian Creek-like scene up there in the not to distant future

OldManRiver wrote:Either OP is trolling or in need of a move to Nome, AK. Plenty of solitude up there.

When I think of Nome, I think of

MFL has a point it is going to get more and more trashed in wilderness areas.
The only real solution is condoms. The more condoms used during sex the less babies. Less babies will equate to less adults. Thus less people in the wilderness. This will also lead to less dogs in the wilderness.
Therefore the solution is always wear your raincoat.

Or just soak...it is Utah after all.

Ha! BYU sex culture reference. Thanks for that.

Soak or float?

I don't get the last 3 replies....

MFL wrote:not trolling - just visualizing an Indian Creek-like scene up there in the not to distant future

bwhahahaha! I highly doubt that. It's a bit more of a walk son. Get off your high horse and realize people do things differntly than you. Some like dogs, some have epics. We can't all crush 5.11 brooooo.

Marc801 wrote:I don't get the last 3 replies....

P in V without the repetitive thrusting from my Utah county memory.

BigNobody wrote: P in V without the repetitive thrusting from my Utah county memory.

Oh.
Wait. That's not quite human.
I've only been a transplant to Utah for 16 years. There are still some fine points to the culture that elude me.

http://beehivebugle.com/2014/09/05/soaking-epidemic-hits-byu-campus1/

highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion wrote:http://beehivebugle.com/2014/09/05/soaking-epidemic-hits-byu-campus1/

A Utah version of The Onion!
Thanks for the pointer!!!

I believe the general rules for dogs on NFS land is that dogs need to be on a leash at all times on established trails and in campsites, and when off trail they at least need to be under control. In my mind, that would mean it would be improper to leave a dog at the base of a cliff or in camp unattended.

The other major rule to keep in mind is that all dog waste needs to be carried out of the forest and disposed of properly. I believe this same rule does apply for human waste as well.

I love having dogs around and encourage people to bring their animals places, but I do think people need to pay more attention to these rules as they are important and not hard to follow. I would be a little ticked off if I started seeing dog poop all over the Cirque and or any place in the Wasatch for that matter.

I doubt the Cirque will ever become an Indian Creek, but always good to practice proper backcountry etiquette, especially with an animal. You have to remember, not everyone will love animals as much as you do and you need to respect that and account for that as well. On the same note, I am seeing more and more people bringing dogs to the crags in lower LCC, not offensive but its still part of the watershed and if caught will result in a pretty decent fine.

WRH wrote:On the same note, I am seeing more and more people bringing dogs to the crags in lower LCC, not offensive but its still part of the watershed and if caught will result in a pretty decent fine.

Big Cottonwood too for that matter. Some folks appreciate the head's up in a friendly way, but, the last folks I mentioned it too's first response, was, "what about service dogs?" That must be some get-out-of-jail-free dog card I suppose. Then, "is there a ranger up there?". No turning around and taking the dogs back to the car.

Had a nasty encounter this winter up behind Alta. I asked if they had a permit, to which they replied yes. I said, thanks, some folks don't know. They replied, "some folks ought to mind their own business." I told them water quality was everyone's business and left them at that. Ugh.

Heavy sigh.