Wear your orange/bright colors

Shooter should know what is down range. Plain and simple.

One season on Sonora Pass Brad Y. got yelled at by some hunter scoping an area with lots of hikers and climbers. He was upset because 'you shouldn't be out here during hunting season'

I also put a bright colored handkerchief on my dog Jumar this time of year because he might be mistaken for a small deer.

Jeremy in Inyokern wrote: I am not going to wear a vest. If you shoot me it's your fault. End of topic for me.

Don't know what could ever persuade me of the value in being dead right.

And here in Iowa there's a responsibility to wear orange if hunting (don't know about bird-watching etc.); even in a state smart enough not to allow rifles for deer season, only shotguns--and alas muzzleloaders that are now about as powerful as some rifles.

Alan Nagel wrote: Don't know what could ever persuade me of the value in being dead right. And here in Iowa there's a responsibility to wear orange if hunting (don't know about bird-watching etc.); even in a state smart enough not to allow rifles for deer season, only shotguns--and alas muzzleloaders that are now about as powerful as some rifles.

A shotgun with a deer slug is going to be more dangerous than most rifles.

in WV / VA were hunting is an old and established way of life, I always wear some Blaze Orange in the woods during hunting season. mostly out of respect for the hunters, and also to increase my chances of not getting accidentally shot.

the hunting season is short and we get the woods all the rest of the year.

have some respect for you fellow outdoorsmen and do not assume they are drunk assholes. Just as they should not assume you are a stoned hippy. Plus they have guns and likely you do not.

fer feks sake

Travis Dustin wrote: I'm not a hunter but would imagine that hunting that close to a trail isn't permitted. I'll ask my friend who is an avid hunter. And yes It's not a blatant shot to a person but an accident where people could be climbing across the the pond that wouldn't be see without bright colors. Also where this hunter was a person could walk around from overlooked and be in the path of fire.

Depends on the state, I can take a shot from a trail in CO, just not within a certain distance from a road or across a road.

I am a red neck hunter and hunters scare me. I hate the fact that there are people out there who probobly should not even be allowed to breed and they are armed,drunk and looking to shoot something. I wear bright colors in the woods and try to be smart and not get shot. Shotgun slug or 370g maxi ball way more scary than any 30-30.....

Hunting an animal as dumb as a deer or an elk with a gun is about as lame as it gets, roughly equivalent to climbing a mountain with a helicopter. I'd like to go up on a large cliff above a bunch of hunters and trundle lethal projectiles, boulders the size of washing machines that could travel up to three miles and still be deadly at them, and tell them they should know better than to hunt below cliffs. If a case like that existed, how long would climbing be allowed there?

This shit again?
Fucking hippie stoner climbers!
Oh wait... I climb. And hunt.
There's a difference between being a drunk asshole with a gun and responsibly putting meat in the freezer for your family. Although, reading threads like this does seem to put the former in a state of burgeoning appeal to me, I think I'll continue striving toward the latter.
Drunk assholes with guns exist. There's no doubt. They are the minority though, and the rest of us shouldn't bear the brunt of responsibility for their fuck-ups. Not you sprout-eating vegan holier-than-thou types, and not the responsible majority of ethical hunters either.

As to why any hunter would visit a locale where there are other people and user groups:
1. population density is increasing
2. game animals are getting accustomed to that population density

Course, maybe it's just an east-coast thing, being unwilling/unable to share with other user groups? Nah... I've seen the dirty looks from the Sierra Club geriatrics as I drive slowly by in my 4x4. And I've also had the city hood rats blast a rooster-tail at me on their dirt bikes when I was hiking.

Seems more likely that society in general is losing respect for differential interests, and attitudes like those in this thread are merely a too-frequent representation of disgust and entitlement for our own myopic opinions.

Guess I better sight the rifle in. Elk season's coming. And it's almost ice climbing season in Canada.

Tzilla Rapdrilla wrote:Hunting an animal as dumb as a deer or an elk with a gun is about as lame as it gets, roughly equivalent to climbing a mountain with a helicopter. I'd like to go up on a large cliff above a bunch of hunters and trundle lethal projectiles, boulders the size of washing machines that could travel up to three miles and still be deadly at them, and tell them they should know better than to hunt below cliffs. If a case like that existed, how long would climbing be allowed there?

Seriously? You mean like the guy who asks what rifle to use to hunt the hunters with? WTF is wrong with you? I'd say you're about two beers and a rifle away from being your own worst nightmare. Take up knitting or something instead. Nature is dangerous.

I think 'asshat' is funny. Eventually, everyone gets shot.

johnnyrig wrote:There's a difference between being a drunk asshole with a gun and responsibly putting meat in the freezer for your family.

Unfortunately way, way too many of the former and too few of the latter inundate Southern Illinois every year from St. Louis and Chicago suburbs. It's a spectacle in its own right as is the annual ritual of a few of them shooting themselves and each other. Nationwide it's always a veritable slaughter of innocents each fall that in the end has little to do with needing to put meat in the freezer for your family and everything to do with simply getting out to play with guns.

So it goes . . .
Away.
Wearing orange will not help if the shot goes wide.
Hunting is a way of life like climbing is a way of life.
And often they are complementary pursuits.

Try to think why I post the things I do. Why do some of you post ?

If you can't or won't follow what I say. . . . and then just spit bile,
how hard is it to say nothing (and not editorialize ?)

Wait, I'm sorry... when we are talking about the majority of them being drunk idiots who are out in the woods who are going to inevitably get themselves or someone else hurt, are we talking about hunters or climbers?

Sorry johnnyrig, I'm neither a hippie or a stoner and most of my politics are just right of Atilla The Hun, but I'm just a climber who doesn't like to be put at risk, by not a minority of irresponsible hunters, but the majority of them. If you like to hunt and want to make it a sport, use a knife, or at least a bow that won't send a lethal projectile miles into the woods who knows where. Hunting with a rifle shouldn't be allowed within 3 miles of any road, trail, campground, lake or anywhere else non-hunters recreate. One's rights to do certain things end when they infringe on others rights, like hiking through the woods without the fear of being shot by a drunk moron redneck. Like I said, if climbers were sending lethal projectiles miles into the forest, those climbing areas would be closed immediately, why should we have to put up with a double standard from hunters?

Tzilla Rapdrilla wrote:Hunting with a rifle shouldn't be allowed within 3 miles of any road, trail, campground, lake or anywhere else non-hunters recreate. One's rights to do certain things end when they infringe on others rights, like hiking through the woods without the fear of being shot by a drunk moron redneck. Like I said, if climbers were sending lethal projectiles miles into the forest, those climbing areas would be closed immediately, why should we have to put up with a double standard from hunters?

Probably true, but 300+ years of tradition says that standard won't be changing anytime soon. In the meantime, we should probably just be happy that we only need to wear orange for a couple of months out of the year. It's like adult swim at the pool; you just have to wait it out while the grown ups have their boring fun. The simple fact is that National Forests and other protected areas probably wouldn't and couldn't (I didn't say shouldn't) exist without hunters. Teddy Roosevelt was NOT a vegan.

While I don't trust many hunters to not shoot me especially at dusk i would still rather hang with hunters than some of you nillys. I have nothing but respect for the hunters who hunt for food. I have no respect for trophy hunters. I have no respect for omnivors who pile on the practice of hunting while they eat their overly processed pepperoni pizza.

Everyone who eats meat should be required to kill for their dinner ocasionaly. It might help them respect their food a bit more...

Nick Goldsmith wrote:Everyone who eats meat should be required to kill for their dinner ocasionaly. It might help them respect their food a bit more...

Totally agree with you, Nick. Looking back, growing up in the old country decades ago was great education for me. It is a lot easier to throw perfectly good meat out when getting meat only involves a quick trip to the local grocery store. These days, the whole process is just too "sanitized" and removed from most people's day-to-day living. A shame really.

Tzilla Rapdrilla wrote:Sorry johnnyrig, I'm neither a hippie or a stoner and most of my politics are just right of Atilla The Hun, but I'm just a climber who doesn't like to be put at risk, by not a minority of irresponsible hunters, but the majority of them. If you like to hunt and want to make it a sport, use a knife, or at least a bow that won't send a lethal projectile miles into the woods who knows where. Hunting with a rifle shouldn't be allowed within 3 miles of any road, trail, campground, lake or anywhere else non-hunters recreate. One's rights to do certain things end when they infringe on others rights, like hiking through the woods without the fear of being shot by a drunk moron redneck. Like I said, if climbers were sending lethal projectiles miles into the forest, those climbing areas would be closed immediately, why should we have to put up with a double standard from hunters?

Your perspective is skewed.

Agreed with the comments about everyone who eats meat should hunt. There'd be a lot more vegetarians.

johnnyrig wrote: Your perspective is skewed. Agreed with the comments about everyone who eats meat should hunt. There'd be a lot more vegetarians.

I have to hunt a cow? (sorry, I couldn't help it)

FrankPS wrote: I have to hunt a cow? (sorry, I couldn't help it)

If you can find someone to let you clue me in, they taste better than most game and are dumb as bricks to boot.