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Anyone still re-sling cams over 10 years old?

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Halljt3 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 5

As the title states does anyone still re-sling cams over 10 years old?

I've got an 1998 old Metolius TCU that barely even has scratches in the lobes, and was wondering if any company is still willing to re-sling this old of a cam, or if i'd just be better off re-slinging myself.

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984
Halljt3 wrote:As the title states does anyone still re-sling cams over 10 years old? I've got an 1998 old Metolius TCU that barely even has scratches in the lobes, and was wondering if any company is still willing to re-sling this old of a cam, or if i'd just be better off re-slinging myself.

Wired Bliss for sure.

Josh Olson · · Durango, CO · Joined Mar 2010 · Points: 255

Or Metolius. They do a bang up job for dirt cheap. Plus, they made the cam.

tommyvsmith · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 10

Ragged Mountain in New Hampshire.

Kent Pease · · Littleton, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,126

Yates, and Runoutcustoms (Luke Malatesta) in Moab did a few years ago.

portercassidy · · UT/CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 66

http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/pdf/cam_repair_form.pdf

Jim Fox · · Westminster, CO · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 50

I just had 5 Camalots reslung by Wired Bliss. They were all about 20 yrs old but in good condition.
Wired Bliss was fast (got them back about 1 week after I mailed them, despite it being Thanksgiving week), they did a great job and they only charged $5 per cam.
Highly recommend them.

Jim Fox · · Westminster, CO · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 50

Metolius is even less expensive at $3 per resling.....

Scottmx426 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2014 · Points: 0

Does wired bliss, clean, lubricate and do maintenance on them like metolius? Met only works on their own products.

rl23455 · · Portland, OR · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 251

http://climbmaxmountaineering.com/

Jim Fox · · Westminster, CO · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 50

Wired Biss cleaned and inspected my cams. No repairs were needed but they do repair cams there

Ryan Dirks · · Washington D.C. · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 5

I'm wondering - anyone have any reason not to just use a short strip of thin webbing (1/2"?), tie in a loop with a water knot and call it good? You'd have to make sure the tails were long enough and it might look kinda jankety, but it would cost about a buck. Might not be as official as one reslung from the manufacturer, but I see no reason not to trust this any less than a 20 year old cam...

john strand · · southern colo · Joined May 2008 · Points: 1,640

Bliss...a water knot really should be 11/16" web, but works fine

wivanoff · · Northeast, USA · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 714
Ryan Dirks wrote:I'm wondering - anyone have any reason not to just use a short strip of thin webbing (1/2"?), tie in a loop with a water knot and call it good?

My first Rigid Stem Friends didn't come with webbing. So, yes, it's been done before. We tied our own with 1" webbing. But, I'd use something thicker than 1/2"

Also, see the warning here about thumbloops:
blackdiamondequipment.com/e…

Bill Czajkowski · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 101

Send it to Metolius. They do their own cams cheap and polish them up so they look brand new. I had some done about two years ago and I was pretty impressed with the results.

Nick Grant · · Tamworth, NH · Joined Oct 2012 · Points: 891

As Tommyvsmith said, Ragged Mountain Equipment in Intervale, NH, does a great job. I got my 30-year-old Friends reslung there a year ago. Here's their website.

raggedmountain.com/

JPVallone · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2004 · Points: 195

My partner sent back a set of TCU's to metolious, They were quite worn and needed new slings.

Metolious clipped the wires on all the triggers and mailed them back that way and said the whole set was to be retired.

I have not bought an item from them since,

Ridiculous.

Scottmx426 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2014 · Points: 0

It states clearly on the metolius website on the page regarding reslings that they will render your cams useless if they deam them past their usable life span/worn out. Obviously a safety issue and liability.

Luc-514 · · Montreal, QC · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 12,535

Metolius did a great job when i sent in 10 cams after a hiatus. Clean, polished, lubed, reslung, full tracking of shipment. Black Diamond at the same price just reslung and shipped stuff back without tracking info. I've been told Ragged Mountain in NH does a good too.

Jeff Maurin · · Pittsburgh, PA · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 40

Mountain Tools reslung some old Camalots and added slings to some hooks. Good workmanship, reasonable price, and good turn-around time.

mtntools.com/cat/rclimb/cam…

-Jeff

JPVallone · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2004 · Points: 195
Stone Nude wrote: They did him a favor. The new ones are a huge improvement anyway and aren't crazy expensive. I would think that wasting repairs on a bunch of worn out gear would be the greater "sin". Check out the other posts about Metolius' work. They clearly go above and beyond. I'd say that the same is true when they decommissioned your friends' set.

No way. Your so wrong. They were great for aid, and using in top rope anchors were the pieces would just take abuse. And at the time we were both guiding full time and they were the perfect pieces for abusing in over redundant Top Rope set ups for huge groups.

There was nothing wrong with the pieces except for some worn lobes. Action was still fine, no bent wires or cables. Visually fine except for worn slings.

I retriggered them for my buddy because at the time I was making some side cash in Estes as cam repair man. It was just ridiculous of them to do that. And they were the old design where the wires threaded through the center of the trigger bar on the TCU. Super pain in the ass to retrigger.

They were just covering their asses, but it cost my friend shipping, and me repair time and materials to make them usable again.

For sure, they make incredible units, but I would check with them and verify that they will not do the same if someone chooses to send in product for service to them. Totally uncalled for and even if the cams were to be retired, I think a guide can make his own call as to how they might use the cams in the future.

I teach quite a bit of gear and anchors courses and these units were perfect for that. I take my old gear and let the noobs I am teaching stuff them and test them however they want. For guides gear gets trashed when you let clients learn and play with your stuff. Those units were perfect at the time to continue to use in that context. Metolious in my opinion had no right to clip those wires.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Trad Climbing
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