Thoughts on Dirty Ropes

I have also heard that smoke might reduce the strength of climbing soft goods. Therefore, every time I do a victory "hit" after a successful climb, I retire all my slings and rope. Biners are washed (in a front loading machine) at least once a year and inspected for micro fractures. This is necessary for SAFETY!

Puff, Puff, Pass!

I'm very happy with how informational this thread is becoming!

Every time I could, I took Locker's rope home and washed it in bleach for him. He pretended to be mad, but deep down I know he appreciated it.

final word - this woman loves dirty ropes!

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Phil Esra wrote: The number of bizarrely flukey, low-probability things that had to happen for that rope to break... why couldn't they happen to you, or anyone? You're playing a numbers game, and who knows, maybe you'll be the one who loses--right?

It could happen to me. I could also trip on the sidewalk and get hit by a bus. Or a bolt could rip and I could deck. Or I could look over the edge of a cliff and the rock I am standing on could suddenly collapse. Or I could ride my bike and get hit by a drunk driver.

There are an infinite number of lurking, hidden low-probability, high-consequence dangers out there, but if I concerned myself with all of them (or any of them for that matter), I would be living in my basement.

Worry about the stuff that matters. Dont worry about the stuff that doesent. And comparing a rope that failed by acid contamination with a rope that is dirty is not even close to the same thing. It is well known that sulfuric acid destroys nylon. It is well known that dirt does not. Opposites.

Bearbreader,

"dont climb moderate multi in squamish the belay ledges are full of dirt and your no one is bringing up a rope bag"

Wow, in Colorado and most of the US, most of the belay legdes are tiled or carpeted. I never new that in other parts of the world they still have dirt? I guess I'll remember my rope bag when I get to Canada.

"if you climb daily and do several of em a week, youll need to wash your rope every week, even daily now who here washes their rope every week?"

You climb daily? You must be a super good climber. Do you TRAD?

"only on da intrawebs do we have folks whinning about their partners dirty ropes"

I wasnt whinning,just giving what i thought was helpful input, but it seems you are?

"rather than worrying about things more important that will keep you alive" ..

I thought that the rope was a signifigant part of the safety system?

"like making sure they know how to belay properly in squamish the ones who whine about dirty ropes are single pitch sport climbers or folks who do minimal climbing" ...

I will agree that proper belay technique is a good way to judge someones skill level.

I think that the way someone treats their gear ie. rope harness or biners does reflect on them as an indivdual and as a climber. If you dont take care of your shit, i dont want to use it.

Just another shining example of the quality input that bearbreader bring to this site, whoever you are. I dont hide behind an avatar like most of the clowns on this site.

Ryan N wrote: Bearbreader, "dont climb moderate multi in squamish the belay ledges are full of dirt and your no one is bringing up a rope bag" Wow, in Colorado and most of the US, most of the belay legdes are tiled or carpeted. I never new that in other parts of the world they still have dirt? I guess I'll remember my rope bag when I get to Canada. "if you climb daily and do several of em a week, youll need to wash your rope every week, even daily now who here washes their rope every week?" You climb daily? You must be a super good climber. Do you TRAD? "only on da intrawebs do we have folks whinning about their partners dirty ropes" I wasnt whinning,just giving what i thought was helpful input, but it seems you are? "rather than worrying about things more important that will keep you alive" .. I thought that the rope was a signifigant part of the safety system? "like making sure they know how to belay properly in squamish the ones who whine about dirty ropes are single pitch sport climbers or folks who do minimal climbing" ... I will agree that proper belay technique is a good way to judge someones skill level. I think that the way someone treats their gear ie. rope harness or biners does reflect on them as an indivdual and as a climber. If you dont take care of your shit, i dont want to use it. Just another shining example of the quality input that bearbreader bring to this site, whoever you are. I dont hide behind an avatar like most of the clowns on this site.

whine whine whine whine

this is from YESTERDAY ... resting today and ill be climbing another 3 days including multi ... then off for 1 then climbing another 3 again

what are YOU doing today rather than whining about how youll never climb with anyone with dirty ropes =P

climb enough ledgy multi up here and youll have dirty ropes in short order ... what do you think is on all those forested ledges??? ... dirt ;)

and more dirt ...

plenty of folks here climb multi several times a week ... doing a 4-6 pitch easy multi at the start/end of the day is a great way to warm up/cool down

just because YOU dont climb that much multi doesnt mean others dont

but come back and whine again tmr/mon/tues, and ill post up more dirty multi pics for you from climbing those days

;)

Spray Spray Spray, seems you are on the computer too?

Your right, those are some dirty ledges.

I looked at your profile and you dont have any ticks, your free to browse mine to get an idea of the climbing I do.

Ryan N wrote:Spray Spray Spray, seems you are on the computer too?

awww /// poor babiii ...

cant find any partners with clean rope

youre the one whinning dirty rope partners

obviously you dont climb enough multis up here with dirty ledges several times a week

LOL

im simply providing examples of dirty multi ledges which are on every moderate climb up here

do YOU even climb trad or do multi

;)

Look at my ticks asshole. I dont see yours...

Ryan N wrote:Look at my ticks asshole. I dont see yours...

i see many ticks in your asshole? ... ever consider deet?

LOL

you can look through my photos ... most of those climbs are partners following up my leads ... unlike your "spray" im not too concerned about my MP 10c trad redpoint score

dont come to squamish ... if you decide to climb multi daily, your rope will get filthy every day from the dirt

you arent going to wash it every few days

in short you wont find a partner which climbs alot in squamish with your attitude

;)

NC Rock Climber wrote:I have never been to Squamish, but it looks awesome! Since no one there washes their ropes, they MUST be very good and safe climbers. It makes perfect sense.

some folks DO wash their ropes ... usually every few months ... they get dirty again in a week or two if they climb alot of trad especially in the off season

dirt does turn to mud in the off season ... and even often "clean" ledges turn to mud and grime ... you arent keeping the ropes clean

heres the malamute midway ledge back in feb ...

insist up here that youll only climb with folks with "clean ropes" ... and for those who do more than sport or TR daily ... youll get laughed out of town

;)

Did you say your looking in my asshole?

Look up rope management dick. A good climber/mountaineer can generally keep their rope out of dirt, mud, ice, and harms way.

Ryan N wrote:Did you say your looking in my asshole? Look up rope management dick. A good climber/mountaineer can generally keep their rope out of dirt, mud, ice, and harms way.

you simply wont keep the dirt out of the rope here on many climbs ... youve never climbed up here and youre still whining

are you going to place pro so your rope "run away" from the dirt and introduces more drag ???

on many pitches your rope comes into contact with the dirt ... period

often on belays there is no clean place to put the rope ... and if there is, on popular multis, the other parties have already claimed it

you arent keeping your ropes "out of the dirt" on climbs like this

you have NO EXPERIENCE climbing up here .. and you whine abut "dirt" and "partners"

but yr obviously think everyone up here is doing it wrong and is unsafe

LOL

;)

Ryan, why so angry?

NC Rock Climber wrote:Ryan, why so angry?

hes huffing and puffing that someone called him out on his comment that said basically folks who dont keep a clean rope deserve to die

heres the exact comment ...

Ryan N wrote: There is no excuse for a dirty rope. When I meet someone at a crag who has dirty ass hands from their rope I tend to stay away. If you can't keep your lifeline clean you deserve the re processions that may result.

basically he said that tons of folks here on MP and many many many climbers in squamish deserve to die ...

;)

Go up thread, I didn't start this. I was giving what I believe to be useful information based on my personal experience. He has yet to address the OPs question, just spray and complain.

If your going to quote me do it accurately. I never wished death on anyone.

Ryan N wrote:Go up thread, I didn't start this. I was giving what I believe to be useful information based on my personal experience. He has yet to address the OPs question, just spray and complain.

thats hilarious ...

youre the one who IMO basically said folks who dont keep clean ropes deserve to die

exact quote ...

Ryan N wrote: There is no excuse for a dirty rope. When I meet someone at a crag who has dirty ass hands from their rope I tend to stay away. If you can't keep your lifeline clean you deserve the re processions that may result...

and youre calling that useful information????

ive provided multiple examples and photos of climbs and ledges where you WONT keep your rope out of the dirt no matter how hard you try ... and if you climb enough multi every few days, are you going to wash your rope everyweek????

youve simply whined over and over again about "dirty assed ropes" with personal attacks

no one has died from a dirty rope yet ... in squamish or elsewhere

climbing tmr/mon/tues? ... ill take some photos of some durty ledges for ya when im out those days

;)

When did I say they deserve to die? If you interpret what I said as the most negative scenario possible that's on you.

And when you take my quote out of context and arrange them how you like I do seem like a dick.

Ryan N wrote:When did I say they deserve to die? If you interpret what I said as the most negative scenario possible that's on you.

i think most people here know you dont mean that the rope will be "rep(r)ocessed" ... are you going to come and "re procesees" the ropes if they dont keep a clean rope ..

are you the rope police that confiscates dirty ropes ... LOL

its VERY clear to mewhat you meant with other folks lives

unless YOU want to explain exactly who or what should be "rep(r)ocessed"

;)