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The tyrolean at Tonnere Tower

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John Johnson · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2001 · Points: 5

Am I the only person who thinks the tyrolean at Tonnere Tower is in very bad shape, and is poorly placed and difficult to reach in the tree? A couple of feet of the sheath on one of the ropes is gone, and it's a difficult move to get up the tree and clipped into the rope.

There are plenty of boulders around the tree where bolts could be placed for a tyrolean (like at Avalon), which will take the stress off the tree near the road. I don't have much experience placing bolts, but would gladly donate a rope and some labor to the project.

mrbiscoop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 0

I agree and am also willing to donate to help.

John Johnson · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2001 · Points: 5
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Amy Silverman · · Boulder, CO · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 0

John,
I agree and would be happy to help also. We were up there yesterday and I came to the same conclusion as you... I don't have any experience placing bolts or setting up tyroleans but would love to learn.

Amy

Maximilian Ritter · · Jackson, WY · Joined Nov 2011 · Points: 0

I think the reason the tree on the road side was used was to prevent you getting wet from high water levels. I was out there starting in late may, and got wet almost every time. All that needs to be done is lower that side about 6 inches so that its possible for anyone under 7 feet tall to comfortably clip into the rope.

Rich Farnham · · Nederland, CO · Joined Aug 2002 · Points: 297

Others did it before me, but I've replaced a number of these the past few years. I probably won't make it out there this week, but should be able to get there sometime next week. Thanks for posting something about this. I'm not climbing in the canyon as much as I used to so I don't see these as often.

As someone said, these are often placed high to keep you dry during the high water season. I don't remember the Tonnerre tyrol in particular, but they are also often placed at the first point on the tree with enough of a protrusion (branch, etc.) to keep the whole rig from sliding down the tree as people climb on/off it. I usually just keep a long sling handy to make a foot loop for the tougher ones (Cob Rock is tricky too), but maybe I'll just start hanging some footloops to keep the trees from getting so trashed.

A number of generous folks donated static ropes to the effort two years ago. I've got a bit of it left, but always appreciate more. If you've got a static rope laying around that you aren't using anymore and would like to donate to the cause, send me a PM.

As for Angel of Death and Sleeping Beauty, you can use the Vampire tyrol if you don't mind a little bushwhack. This and Bell Buttress got cut down over the winter. Who knows why... It's much easier to replace these by myself when the old one is still servicable. I'll try to get out to this one at some point, but it's low priority since there's another tyrol nearby.

Alton Richardson · · Boulder/Fort Collins, CO · Joined Jan 2010 · Points: 215

Climbed at Tonner yesterday. The tyrol line is BAD. Definitely needs to be replaced ASAP. I would volunteer to do it this weekend but I will be out of town for a whole week. Willing to volunteer to replace it when i return however.

In regards to the location, the trees really are the best spot. I wouldn't go drilling holes into the boulders on the side of the road, none are really all that big. And there isn't a good spot to anchor across the river. If one were to have the tyrol go to the creekside area, then in the winter, it would be extremely difficult to access the other routes. And the only big boulders are all to low to the water.

I say leave it on the trees, install foot loops if needed. I will be "free" the weekend of the 10th and can fix this if it hasn't already been done.

Alton Richardson · · Boulder/Fort Collins, CO · Joined Jan 2010 · Points: 215

Haven't been up in the canyon for a few weeks now. Did the Tonner Tyrol about 3 weeks ago and it was in dire need of replacement.

Is it still bad or has this been fixed?

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984
Alton R. wrote:Haven't been up in the canyon for a few weeks now. Did the Tonner Tyrol about 3 weeks ago and it was in dire need of replacement. Is it still bad or has this been fixed?

Water level has been pretty low lately, especially upstream from the Boulder Falls parking. CO DWR gives it at 35 cfs today, but it seemed lower yesterday. You can probably find a place to boulder hop.

dwr.state.co.us/SurfaceWate…;MTYPE=DISCHRG

Alton Richardson · · Boulder/Fort Collins, CO · Joined Jan 2010 · Points: 215

Crossing the river at this time of year is fairly reasonable in most places. However, this is not the point. The tyrol is becoming a hazard and will need to be fixed certainly before next high water season...

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

Crossing the river at this time of year is fairly reasonable in most places.

Crossed for the sport park no problem. Out of curiosity, what happened to the hand line? I see the anchors are still there.

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984
Scott McMahon wrote:Crossing the river at this time of year is fairly reasonable in most places. Crossed for the sport park no problem. Out of curiosity, what happened to the hand line? I see the anchors are still there.

Not sure about the handline, but there's an easy tree crossing just upstream from the parking.
Speaking of parking, how long till the DOT closes it entirely? Saw another near accident when somebody pulled out into traffic and the No Parking signs are routinely flouted.

Dankasaurus · · Lyons, CO · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 85
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Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984
Alton R. wrote:Crossing the river at this time of year is fairly reasonable in most places. However, this is not the point. The tyrol is becoming a hazard and will need to be fixed certainly before next high water season...

Just skimmed the thread and missed that you were considering replacing the tyrol. If you don't get an answer online, I can try to take a look if I go to Boulder Canyon tomorrow. Where exactly is it WRT the Boulder Falls Parking lot? I assume it'll be obvious if its still the old one?

Rich Farnham · · Nederland, CO · Joined Aug 2002 · Points: 297

I went out a few weeks ago to replace it, and it looked like someone had already done so. Full disclosure - I didn't go all the way down to the line to check it. It had been a static line that I put in a few years ago, and was now a newer looking dynamic rope, so I assumed this was a recent replacement.

I don't like dynamic tyrols. They sag too much and wear out quicker. That being said, with the frequency that these things get cut down, I'm not going to waste static rope replacing the dynamic rope this close to the end of the season for shady crags. I'll try to get to this one next spring before the water gets high and put in some static line.

The water is pretty low in the canyon right now. I don't know about Tonnerre in particular, but I have waded to all of the other N. facing crags I've been to in the canyon the past few weekends.

If it turns out that the line at Tonnerre Tower is still bad, please post up here, or send me a PM. I might be able to get out there on Monday.

Maximilian Ritter · · Jackson, WY · Joined Nov 2011 · Points: 0

Rich, let me know if you go out and need some help, id be happy to join you setting it up.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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