need help picking a leaders pack

Part one is up now...2 more parts to go up shortly.

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hmmm, been climbing a bit...full time for the past 15 years, guiding, alpine V and VI routes, ice, rock, you name it....can't say I own a "leader" pack...is this something dead bird came up with to sell a new expensive pack that is suppose to make one climb better, like their $600 jackets?

In any regard, keep in mind, you are only as fast as your second....don't load him/her down with a non-"leader" pack, whatever that might be and expect to move any faster because you have a cool "leader" pack on...a classic route where you need to use low profile packs is Beckey Chouinard in the Bugaboos...I have guided this route...and can assure you...that if your partner is not experienced enough to swap leads and is going to serve as a 2nd for the entire trip...you better make sure his/her pack is no more cumbersome to climb with than whatever this "leader" pack business is....or you won't make the route in a day which is much preferred....unless of course you want to carry a bigger (I presume non-"leader") pack and bivy.

APBT1976 wrote:I love my Cilo 30L W/NW Dyneema pack. I have to admit though i have had more than one problem with it in the short it has been in use "one ice season/40days". Mind you everything that went wrong have all been easy fixes. But for a $500 pack kinda crazy you cant run it over with a Mack truck 100 times! SO you ask what is so great about a $500 pack that falls apart then? The ride and the W/NW Dyneema material. Despite one of the lower ice axe buckles coming clear off, one of the buckles on the lid snapping in half when i was unlatching it, the buckles that hold the lid on coming undone along with various other buckles just coming undone for no apparent reason and loosing them in the snow i will still buy another Cilo Gear pack. Just something about the simplicity of it i really really like. ...

I own CiloGear. I'd love to hear more from you about the problems you've had with the pack. It sounds like you've had problems with the buckles, and as I wrote I'd love to hear more. Please call us at 503.305.3858 or send an email to cilogear @ gmail.com and let us know what's up. Did you lose the buckle or did you rip the strap off? Well, anyway, I look forward to hearing from you directly and I look forward to helping you getting your pack set up the way you want.

Dow Williams wrote:hmmm....can't say I own a "leader" pack...

agree 110%

Leader

Leader of Pack? Do we carry "Leader of Pack"?

Leader is French - For give me some fucking pack!

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Thanks Bang..all three of the new blogs on climbing specific packs are up now.

part 1 fitting

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part 2 quality

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Part 3 the basics

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hey Dane,

Thanks for the new updates on the climbing pack discussion!