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who needs cams? I got doubles of all the big hexes Ill likely need, and enough nuts to go around. didn't the old guys go with nuts only? |
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I do miss the fiddling and messin' with sizes and fit with the hexcentrics. Cams just plug in so fast, you lose that personal touch with the rock that hex nuts gave you time to develop. And when cams got boring, along came pre-bolted sport climbing! |
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I regularly go without cams. A true master will lead without them I think. |
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What's so funny pink pointer? |
SteveP wrote:who needs cams? I got doubles of all the big hexes Ill likely need, and enough nuts to go around. didn't the old guys go with nuts only? I eagerly await your hex-only ascent of Luxury Liner, be sure to YouTube it. |
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passivism? I tried passivisim once, not in 'nam of course... |
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I'm an activist, I seldom even gear up with passive gear. And then I boast about it online how I made the send without nuts. It makes me feel elite. |
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Yes the old guys did, but they also had balls. |
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I'm going to be an activist... from now on, only cams! |
Willa wrote:Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the men of old; seek what they sought. —Basho A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole . . . is a danish. |
SteveP wrote:who needs cams? I got doubles of all the big hexes Ill likely need, and enough nuts to go around. didn't the old guys go with nuts only? As much as a love the passive, I find there are a few routes that have quite parallel side that are hard to protect with passives. Cams do the trick there. Ill whip all day on a solid hex for sure. |
Brent Apgar wrote:Yes the old guys did, but they also had balls. Lack of other options probably had something to do with their testicular fortitude as well. It's funny, you don't really see those guys and gals of yore using an all passive rack nowadays. |
JLP wrote: Your profile seems to have more of these than any other I have seen. It's so obvious you are a proginy of The Lake. It's good to know all those old guys are still around, keeping the 70's alive Perhaps you misunderstand the term "pink-point"? It refers to the use of pre-placed gear, the epitome being sport climbing. I have done much "head-pointing" in which I inspect gear and moves on top rope although I always place gear on lead. I most definitely prefer the on-sight method but I am much too weak a climber to always employ it. |
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First off, I love placing my hexes early, nothing like running out of cams before the crux. |
JLP wrote: I think my misunderstanding is with your tick list. Help me out out here. Puffs Plus 5.4 .. BF OS PPro. ---> You did this with your boyfriend, onsight, with preplaced gear? I see you climb 5.13, but all I see are a load of 7-9's and a few 10's. Most of the other 13 climbers here have a whole lot of 12's. "BF" = Barefoot. "OS" = Onsight. "PP" or "PPro" = Passive Pro. |
SteveP wrote:who needs cams? I got doubles of all the big hexes Ill likely need, and enough nuts to go around. didn't the old guys go with nuts only? Just make sure you have a hammer for the hexes... for when you're in parallel cracks. |
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I have started bringing along hexes again and have found that on many moderate routes (5.8, 5.9) there are many bomber placements. Plus I can most often use them to setup anchors, so I don't eat up the cams I would want for the next pitch. |
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Wow Jason, sounds like you've HAD IT. Well I guess it's kinda weak at this point to hope that Nick Rhoades 'baby pass' (no, you can't watch my kid dude)is a photoshop aide job. |
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This thread is starting to get good. |
Cory wrote: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole . . . is a danish. -The great philosopher Basho "Trying to be bitchin can come at the risk of being instead, a complete fool. But, not trying at all, and hence never risking being a fool, can come at the price of never being bitchin even once" - Chongo |
