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Mad Rock Oval Tech - Conflicting strength ratings and UIAA certs on different batches?
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We got in a shipment of ovals from Mad Rock and I found some of them have different rating stamps and certifications on them despite they are the exact same model. One set of biners is labeled as being CE and UIAA certified and is stamped with a strength rating of 24 / 8 / 7KN. The other is not stamped with any certifications and is rated for 23 / 7 / 7 kN. Mad Rock lists the biner as holding 23 / 7 / 7 kN on their website, which is what the biner without UIAA and CE labels lists. I can understand some of the biners not being stamped as being UIAA or CE certified, maybe Mad Rock started mass producing them before they were certified, but why the differences in strength ratings?   The top picture shows the ratings of the top biner, and the bottom biner shows the ratings of the bottom biner. The UIAA label is on the left and its missing from the top biner. |
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contacting Mad Rock directly might be the best way to get answers to your questions. |
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see above post - why ask on a forum? |
20 kN wrote:We got in a shipment of ovals from Mad Rock.... Is that the royal "We"? And perhaps whoever you ordered them from might have an idea about what they sold you? |
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Actually, IIRC 20kN works at Climb Aloha's gear shop, so I guess that's who the 'we' above referred to. Is that the case, Sayar? They were received by the gear shop? And if so, did they get put out for sale or set aside until this is resolved? Also I'm kinda curious if this is an isolated occurrence or not, so kindly report back with what your vendor/MR has to say about it. |
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USNavy/20kN/Sayar, |
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Don't question Sayar, Khoi; he clearly knows what he's doing. After all, he climbs 5.12 (!!!!!) and has been to Yosemite (!!!!!) and is going again in 2 weeks (!!!!!!!!!!!!). At least, that's the short version of the emails I've been getting from him the past week. |
Khoi wrote:USNavy/20kN/Sayar, Why do you post these questions at multiple forums instead of taking the most direct action of contacting the manufacturer and asking them yourself? If you check out the other forums, you'll see MY answer to that question. And I make it easy, I'm rtwilli4 everywhere. |
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Well shit, I've just realized that I'm NOT 'rtwilli4' here. Anyways, that's me on the other site... |
Ryan Williams wrote:Well shit, I've just realized that I'm NOT 'rtwilli4' here. Anyways, that's me on the other site... Were rtwilli1, 2 and 3 already taken? :-) |
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Who cares, these are the bomb for racking nuts! |
