Stiff and Splits Dome Rock Climbing

5/20/2017: Bolt counts posted here seem to be off, but typically only by one. The two routes on the west side appear to have accessible anchors for toproping. May 25, 2017

A comment about bolt count??? I'm more concerned and saddened about the chipping, if you can even call it that. Kelly, you state that the routes are chipped, but it takes seeing this crag to fully realize what that statement actually means. These beautiful and remote rock outcrops.......:( Jan 3, 2018

I agree with splitclimber, these routes aren't chipped, manufactured is a more fitting word, and whats up with all the perma draws on 30' routes? The only thing missing is colored tape to mark the drilled pockets. Jan 3, 2018

Okay, you guys need to take it easy. Have you ever lived in a place like Tonopah?? I was there for over a year and this place, specifically this crag, was a fucking godsend. I put the perma-draws there because I needed a gym (with Kelly's permission, of course). I would rope solo and it would help me get a few laps in after work. I would go several times a week, 90% of the time without a partner. I met someone there ONCE over the course of a year.

Additionally, you want to talk about manufacturing? Where do you draw the line then? When you knock tons upon tons of rock off a cliff in the process of cleaning, isn't that already manufacturing? I was so thankful to have a few routes to climb next to the truck after work. The fact that they were drilled brought the grade down from 5.13 or 5.14 to 5.11. Thank. God. I doubt very many 5.14 climbers will be visiting lone mountain.

I also note that neither of you have tried any of the other routes in the area. Yes, the bolt spacing is tight. Don't clip all the bolts! Who cares? This is Nevada and the rock is inherently rotten. You chime in as if you know the history (albeit brief) of the crags. You don't. Perhaps you should shoot Kelly a message before your panties get all bunched? After all, you were just passing through while I had to suffer in Tonopah with very little to choose from for over a year (and will have to return in the future and yes, I will put the perma-draws back up when I do). Will you be back? I sure as hell doubt it. Jun 28, 2018

we have every right to express our own opinion. no personal attacks on Kelly, just expressing our distain for how these specific routes were established.

we climbed several routes in the area and I appreciate Kelly's effort in establishing all the other routes on the various crags here.

"Additionally, you want to talk about manufacturing? Where do you draw the line then? When you knock tons upon tons of rock off a cliff in the process of cleaning, isn't that already manufacturing?"

I don't consider that manufacturing regarding establishing climbing routes. Big drilled out pockets and edges to lower the grade is manufacturing IMO. Aug 8, 2018

Great warm up area before heading into the hills. Some fun pumpy routes Nov 8, 2018