[Hide Comment] I did. Just to start a long ridiculous thread on whether to bolt or not. I promise that I will never do it again, if no response is given to this post.

Aug 18, 2004

[Hide Comment] It is amazing that Bob D'Antonio would have anything to say about adding bolts to this route with his long list of bolted cracks, chossheaps and generally overated bolted pieces of shit to his credit.Perhaps it would be time better spend scrutinizing his actions carefully in the name of preserving climbing for future generations of climbers who actually can make a move on a piece of gear instead of needing to be right next to a bolt every second. Aug 23, 2004

[Hide Comment] If Bob had not said anything, everyone would have probably assumed it was he who added the bolts. I'm also a little disgusted at this new direction of "making it safe for everyone" that people like Bob are taking. It's good to hear that someone else, seemingly unrelated to this trend, is admitting guilt. 'Fess up, the rest of you; I for one, would really like to see new climbs be challenging and not just technically. We are already looking back and saying "what the hell have we done"? Here is a little tip that many "just bolt it" types don't want to hear: If adequate removable protection is available, utilize it! Pretty far out hu? Sep 2, 2004

[Hide Comment] Now back to Face Value. Climbed this about a month ago and thought it was a very good climb. I usually enjoy, but don't find easy bolted routes very memorable, but the "funky" holds (many large quartz crystals) made this one quite memorable. I'm sure it would have been more so if it only had the 2 original bolts though. Still, my partner and I both thought that it was exceptionally fun on a great piece of rock. Oct 14, 2005

[Hide Comment] Fun route, easy not over bolted like table rock or CCC. more bolts then your average 11 mile route but the dome needs it. its crowded here so let all enjoy this great canyon Sep 9, 2008

[Hide Comment] Very fun bolted face. Steep, well protected, but not sewn up. A couple runouts on moderate ground hold the attention. Well worth doing and a great climb to set a toprope for strong beginners. A 60m gets down nicely, but make sure it's the middle! Aug 8, 2009

[Hide Comment] This is probably the highest quality sport route in the canyon. It's steep, has nice crystals for holds, and consistently makes one smile when leading it. Aug 13, 2011

[Hide Comment] Note that Stewart Green's book (2010, 2nd Ed., p. 337) has wrong location for Face Value. If you use his photo as a guide, you end up on Mike Johnson Route (5.10b). Aug 6, 2012

[Hide Comment] With a 20ft drop off the ledge behind you, the first move held my attention. The 60m rope gets you to the ground, not the ledge on the top of the boulders, and you could also easily scramble from the ledge down.

I really enjoyed this climb. We we're basking in the sun yesterday and dodging falling ice. Gotta love Colorado. Mar 10, 2014

[Hide Comment] This is one of my favorite routes in the entire canyon, and it has about as short of an approach as you could ever expect. Thus, it, and the surrounding climbs, are great to do at the end of the day if you're trying to squeeze in a few more pitches. This has a lot of nice moves the entire way with some run outs on the easier sections to keep things exciting. Use a full 60m rope with very little to spare. Aug 31, 2015

[Hide Comment] As noted above, this is Route 6 on p. 337 of the Stewart Green guide but is mislabelled as Route 5 in the text. Great climbing with lots of hidden ledges. Oct 10, 2015

[Hide Comment] Hard move to start, and steep rock to third bolt.

20 feet between bolts 3 and 4 on moderate terrain, with interesting move above 3rd bolt.

Very nice and fun route.

60m will get you all the way to ground - can belay from ground or ledge at start of climb. Jun 3, 2016