5.7 C2,
Aid, 800 ft (242 m), 8 pitches, Grade IV,
Avg: 3.6 from 142
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FA: Olevsky and Jones, 1978
Utah
> Southwest Utah
> Zion NP
> Leaning Wall
I don't know...unless it's 1000 feet off the deck, C1 can be pretty monotonous. In any case, this route is worth doing for the exposure on the last pitch alone! It is also a good practice route for bigger and better things.
I understand this can be a pretty crowded route on weekends so if you're planning on doing a one day ascent, you might as well forget about it if you get behind a party that's hauling. It gets good sun (SW facing) so it can be done comfortably in cooler weather.
The common strategy for this route seems to be to fix the lower section the first day and then come back the next day and fire to the top. A trail leads to the base of the climbing, a short section of sandy rock that leads to a ramp.
P1 (Easy 5th) Begin by climbing up sandy rock to the large, left-trending ledge/ramp above. Follow the ramp to the base of a chimney (identified by a tree about 10 feet up the chimney).
P2 (5.6/5.7) Climb the fun chimney to a belay (two drilled pins) on a large ledge. If you are fixing a line from here, you may want to back the belay up with a cam (#3 Camalot). We had a 70m rope but a 60m should be able to reach the ground if fixing.
P3 (5.5) Walk around right and climb a sandy trough up to a ledge at the base of the headwall.
P4 (C1) This is where the steepness begins. Aid the bolt ladder and eventually a thin crack on a steep slab, reaching a belay where the wall steepens.
P5 (C2) Continue up the crack system to a belay. Skip this belay and tension right into a thin seam. Aid the seam (crux) with creative nutwork and continue up to the next anchor. The seam aids perfectly fine with nuts, offsets, and tricams, so
leave the cam hooks at home (camhooks aren't exactly clean aid pieces in sandstone)
P6 (C1) The crack at this point widens enough that it can be free-climbed at a reasonable grade. The guides claim 5.10 but it looks a bit harder and very sustained. If you're still in aid mode, as is likely the case, continue upwards in your aiders to the second set of anchors.
P7 (C1) This pitch looks like it might actually be 5.10. The crack leans pretty seriously to the right by this point, making retreat difficult. Continue aiding upwards to the enormous Solar Orbit Ledge which looks like a good, but slopey, bivy.
P8 (C1) This is the cool part! Traverse the ledge to the far right side, surmount the roof, and aid the bolt ladder to the top. Make sure you look down for a while at the lip of the roof... big exposure! The second has the option of taking a running swing into space at the lip (highly recommended).
Topo
Stoppers, including many RPs (offsets useful). Tricams (pink and red). Double set of cams to #3.5 camalot, with triples in green to blue sizes.
Boulder, CO
This is one of the most obvious routes from the road, and the tour buses love to point out climbers on it. When climbing the route, it seems there is always a tour bus moving slowly or parked below you. Nov 8, 2002
This route is perfect for speed. We simul-climbed the first 3 easy pitches, regrouped at the base of the main wall, then simul-aided the remaining 5 pitches to the summit, going 8 hours base-to-base. It was very smooth and solid the whole way. Not only do you not need overnight gear, cut your rack down a bit, and leave the pig in the car, but nobody has to get bored belaying or jugging a single line! We climbed about 50-60 feet apart. My partner Ryan Sayers carried a small backpack with about a gallon of water and our approach shoes. I still trailed a haul line, which Ryan passed through a biner on his harness. When I needed gear, he just sent it up the haul line and I kept going. The only stops we had were waiting at a couple of the belays to pass! I don't know that I could ever simul-aid on C3, but C1 was a joke! With almost entirely bomber placements (except for a few micronuts in the 15-foot section of C2), I felt very in control. We always had 10-12 great pieces between us, and often a belay.
I used to think all those speed techniques were more dangerous, and I think sometimes they are. But in this case, it was much faster, much less of a hassle, more enjoyable since we didn't have to rush at all, and JUST AS SAFE!! And having less gear even made the rappels a breeze.
Just a thought... Nov 12, 2002
Great route, but not stellar. Apr 5, 2003
Ouray, CO
Also, I've only climbed in Zion in March and APril. Is mid May gonna be too hot? May 4, 2003
Boulder, CO
The heat is probably OK in mid-May, plus you get max daylight. Touchstone would be a more reasonable solo, especially if you fix the bottom 2 pitches or so. May 5, 2003
Flagstaff, AZ
Thanks for the info.
Oct 23, 2003
Flagstaff, AZ
Thanks. I should get up there sometime in the next few months to give this thing a whirl. I would like to free that pitch as I have heard that it is very good.
Take care,
Will Nov 7, 2003
Also, be really careful of verglas on the descent gullies to the rap stations in Winter. Ben slipped and fell with the pig on his back and almost slid off the edge. No fun. Be safe. Oct 28, 2004
Winona
Littleton, CO
solo attempt on space shot Feb 25, 2008
Denver, CO
Springdale / Zion UT / Moab
Bend, OR
We intended to fix all the way to the top of P4 - per the supertopo lengths. You can fix the first two pitches with a 60m (4th class and chimney pitch) - we had a 70m but there was plenty of rope. When you fix it, move right on the way down and clip it into the Alpine Start anchor too - makes for a nicer jug with no debris. P4 (bolt ladder to C2) off the ledge is listed as 90' in the topo. Well, it was more like 130' as I was WAY past half on my 60m. About the time I was finishing the pitch and wondering what shenanigans I was going to use to get us back to the top of P2, a soloist came up behind us intending to fix to the top of P3. So we ended up using 3 ropes to fix to the down (P4, P3, P2/P1 via Alpine Start anchor). So i DO NOT KNOW if you can fix all the way for P4-P2 with a 60m - anyone?
P1 - 5.6 move to 4th class rubble
P2 - Fun and clean 5.7 chimney with lots of holds
P3 - I moved right into a fun 5.6 groove thing.
P4 - STREEEEEETCH, bolt, hook, lots of bolts, bomber nuts..... and then pause. Seems like a definite C2 bit on this pitch now. I leapfrogged bodyweight black & red tricams for about 10-15' above a bomber #1 camalot. Some more C1, and then a few thin placements again. I know no idea why the belay is 10' above a nice ledge! Like I said, long pitch - maybe 130'?
P5 - I didn't lead this pitch, but seemed like bomber C1 to about 10-15' of C2.
P6 - #0.5 camalot to #1 camalot crack jugging. Heavy on the #0.5 camalots to green camalots.
P7 - #1 camalot to #4 camalot crack jugging. Heavy on the #2s and #3s.
P8 - Fun! Easy but exciting free climbing with a few bolts and optional gear gets you below the bolt ladder. Bring a single set of cams and some offset nuts on this piece. Big piece optional. There is a nice long stretch between a couple bolts/pins down low. I had to hunt, but two offset nuts got me up. Dodgy pins for a while - and I also placed an alien and camalot to make some moves between bolts. And then the top out wierdness. I placed a #3 camalot as directional, and tagged up a big cam to move into the easy free climbing to the anchor.
Descent was absolutely trivial in the daylight. A worn path leads between all the rappels. I think the first rap can be done with a single 60m, but all the rest are doubles. The supertopo is spot on.
Anyone see the CRAZY chockstone that is next to the second to last rap anchors. Is that NEW???? It won't last forever! Heck, it looks like your knot could pull it off!
Fun route and we enjoyed it. The two C1 crack pitches are kind of boring for an aid climber, but all the other pitches were fun. Next time I'll free climb the 5.10 crack to EO ledge.
Have fun!
Gear: here is what we had and it was plenty.
You could get by with less camalots, you'll just have a long way between pieces on P6/P7. We still leapfrogged a fair bit.
As of April, 2010 - most the fixed hardware has been upgraded. There are plenty of bad pins on the last pitch, but every once in a while you get a fat bolt. Apr 18, 2010
Sandy, Utah
Rapping the route was epic, but possible, and required doing the first rap three four times before I was finally able to pull the line. The first go was to place directionals and get to the lower anchor and secure the end of the rope as a pull line. The second rap was to get the haul bag down. The third rap was supposed to be the final rap of the ledge, but the knot got caught up on the ledge (I had to set a natural anchor above where the headwall crack tops out on the ledge). The final rap was successful by rapping on a single 70 meter rope, doubled over - it barely was long enough.
The rappel to the next anchor also required some rigging, but the remaining were manageable with minor penjies, with the haul bag clipped to my harness.
In speaking with two guys who went up after I did, they were able to top step through the spot with the pulled bolt. I guess I just wasn't feeling that brave at the time, and was pretty trashed at that point anyway.
In retrospect, I should have unloaded some of the weight of the rack, etc. and tried to make the moves through the bolt ladder. Had I known the rappel would be so epic, I would have scratched out hand holds with my finger nails!! Glad to hear the top can still be done even with the missing pin! Let me know if you've got any questions about gear.
I found a .5 tri-cam critical, probably could have used a #1 too, but didnt' have one on me. 3 or 4 #1 & #2 camalots would have been nice for the upper head wall pitches. Things get pretty run out without them. I never found a spot for my #4 camalot, but did place my #3.5 just to get it off my rack. I could have done without it. HB offsets are nice to have, the #1 C3 camalot proved indespensible. It would have been nice to have tcu's for the shallower placements, but was able to manage with Metolius FCU's - but a few of the placements were a little unnerving - being solo, I wasn't down on blowing a piece and taking a whipper.
Enjoy! Oct 17, 2010
Bozeman, MT
Logan, Utah
We fixed the first four pitches with three ropes on day one, as follows: One 60m rope to the top of the chimney (end of P2), clipped through the Alpine start anchor as previously suggested. This rap is about 185-190 feet of rope. Then we fixed from there to the top of P3, I think it was about 100-120 foot. Then another fixed line to the anchor above the "bowl" which is the end of pitch 4. As previously mentioned, this is around 125-130 feet. This method used three fixed lines. We had the idea of fixing to the halfway point of pitch 5, the intermediary anchor that you tension off of, which other people will probably also consider. I don't think you can make it though on a 60m rope, but a 70m would reach for sure and make for a quick day two.
Day two we jugged up those three lines which was pretty easy, and hauled, also easy now on the fixed line route. The hauling day one through the actual free climbing pitches is a nightmare in comparison.
Pitch 5 is the crux of the route because its lots of small offset nuts, the last part of the pitch took us awhile. Pitch 6 and 7 are really easy camalot pitches, but I'm happy I had five purple, green, red, and yellow camalots to make it easier for my follower. Otherwise there will either be lots of swinging, or lots of back cleaning for the follower. The last pitch my partner led, and he was able to top step his aider past the sheered off (missing) piton. It should be noted that it still took him awhile to get up high enough to make the clip, and he is over 6 feet tall. Looking at it while I came up, I'm pretty sure there is a pod that could either take a ballnut or a grey C3. Alternatively, I think there is a good hand hold on the left side flake that you could use to step on top of the lower pin itself. I'm 5'7 and happy I didn't have to figure this part out. Some people have mentioned bringing a big cam to aid the freeclimbing bit at the very end of P8, but its pretty trivial moves on a rail. You only have to free climb for about 5 feet to get to another placement, not sure its worth the weight to bring along a number five cam just for this. The chimney pitch (P2) could use one or two number four camalots but otherwise unnecessary on the route.
We did the descent in the dark, there is a worn climbers train with occasional cairns. There was one point where the trail goes onto a slab, you have to make some third class slab moves to get past that and back on trail (generally going lower on the slabs). The trails lead to the first rappel tree, which is a 150' tall ponderosa. The first rappel is almost exactly 100 feet. You could do it safely with a single 60m rope, the landing is pretty flat and bushy. Another trail at the plumb point of that rappel leads a few hundred feet over to the first double rope rappel station. The next station is also easy to find, its on a platform. The station after that is to the right of the left facing corner, on a peculiar airy chock stone. The next station you have to rappel (~180ft) down to the huge ledge and walk over to, there is a beaten path over to it, but it is harder to locate than any of the others. From their you rap to the ground and walk a few minutes out to the road.
Have fun and be careful. Feb 15, 2012
Tempe, AZ
Sonora, CA
Gets sun around 10:30 in late jan/early feb Feb 6, 2013
Tucson, AZ
Salt Lake City
Some of the fixed gear is missing/broken (several pins have sheared off) and require creativity to get around. Bring hooks and be ready to top step and bust a move. To say all the gear is "bomber" is stretching the truth a bit (several tiny brass nuts in sandstone in a row?)
Semi-comfortable bivys can be had at the Rebozo Pillar and Earth Orbit Ledge or just before the top of the route after the "bolt ladder" on P8. Walking off in the dark would require luck. There certainly isn't a footpath.
Routes change over time and many of these comments are around ten years old. Maybe it's not getting as much traffic as it used to. Let the criticism begin but from reading above, one would imagine this is a clip up. We sure felt challenged. Oct 11, 2014
Salt Lake City, UT
SLC, UT
We were able to bypass the missing pin on p8 with some excellent offset nut placements. C1+ or C2 maybe. Nov 10, 2014
moab, utah
Seattle, WA
Farmington, utah
youtube.com/watch?v=qI87Duo… Apr 29, 2017
Livin' in the Junk!
SLC
Here's an article with some more info rockandice.com/climbing-new… Jun 19, 2017
Ouray, CO
SLC, UT
Bozeman, MT
The crux of the whole experience may very well have been getting the pig up the first three pitches. free solo pitch one, 1 60m will get from top of pitch 2 to the ground for hauling. May 17, 2018
Salt Lake City, UT
Provo, UT
Utah
Salt Lake City, UT
Springdale / Zion UT / Moab
Utah
Flagstaff, AZ
Joshua Tree, CA
brandamore, PA
Modesto, Ca
Also- anchors have not been spruced up. Great route, as far as we made it. Bailed after pitch 5 due to said climbing team not being exactly the nicest. Nov 3, 2019
Salt Lake, UT
Reno, NV
San Luis Obispo, CA
Just climbed the route in a day, about 7-8 hours to summit.
Gear used: triple rack of totems, BD #3, talon hook and large hook.
no nuts, no cam hooks, no ball nuts(would be perfect for pitch 5), no tricams, no offset cams or nuts, no micronuts.
First 3 pitches cruise.
P4: opted for the talon hook to gain the ledge to start the bolt ladder, bolt spacing is close. "Tricky nut section" took a totem.
P5: first half of pitch to intermediate "penji" anchor is C1. After moving right to new crack was another talon hook in a obviously prior used placement, then from there it was all totems to the top, most were loaded on only 2 lobes. While the crack is flared and blown out there is a nice very thing crack in its center that would accept many micro nuts, bd C3 000"s and ball nuts if you dont have totems. This is where standing high in your aiders gets you past many poor placements to a better one. I took a pic of my placements, from the hook I used, (in totems) Red, purple, orange, purple, blue, yellow, yellow, green. with an additional 2 or so being back cleaned so I dont remember what color those were. I wouldn't say this was any harder than C2.
P6 to Top more cruiser C1 or freeclimb with a final hook move in the last bolt ladder due to a broken piton.
Descent:
Walk across the gulley to obvious pine tree with bomber webbing. After the first single rope rappel you must continue the way you were going(climber right), not straight down. Took me 15 minutes to find the next rap anchor. Its kind of hidden in the far corner. Then easy double 60m rope raps to the ground. Most anchors on climb and raps are still old pitons, with some newer bolts here and there. Apr 4, 2021
Golden, CO
Trip report from a spring 2020 solo ascent May 23, 2022
Iron County
Feel free to doctor the C2 pitch. Nov 16, 2022
Iron County
(Love some of those photos BTW)
In April '76 I free soloed to the start of the aid with a rack, drill, and 90m bicolor 9mm. I placed the first bolt and fearful of down soloing I rapped from a single drilled angle only to be dismayed by seeing I was short, so I went up and cut the rope above an easy section, (cried a bit) down soloed, and refixed.
The rest of this particular attempt is described in the Alpinist Zion article by Ethan Newman.
In '80 I returned with Dave Jones. I let him lead the first 3 pitches that I had soloed. Then I lead P4 and Dave swung lead and after reaching my high point above the short ladder (which I believe is the section with the wear problems) he led another 8-10m. I did P6 and belayed from the crack when I saw it was widening. Then Dave did the pitch to Earth Orbit entirely on aid.
That "ledge" had me wondering whether it actually was one or just a wide ramp on which snow had accumulated. It was good to get there and find a bivy. I placed a bolt (DA) there. Next morning started out hairy with me bolting to a short way from topping out.
Then Dave followed and I got to see his eyes bug out! He wouldn't argue over the name of the route.
He placed the last 3 bolts and topped.
Curiously, after only adding P7 and about 16m more, he would later claim to have led 70% of the FA. That's a bit misleading.
He would go on to claim to be a pioneer of the late '70s after predating our ascent to '78. In an online flamefest decades ago he would acquiesce when I asked him to explain my '81 Mazda in the photos. lol
He would go on to publish other predated routes (and even post date mine!).In his Zion history, Deuce did a disfavor to Scott Fischer who was in truth the greatest pioneer of the late '70s.
It's too late for them to see a correction. They are both gone, Scott on Everest, and now Dave in his sleep.
I wonder what he was dreaming about,.. Dec 8, 2022
Nevada
Las Vegas, NV
I expect that section will be pretty tricky until "re-enhanced." Dec 11, 2023