[Hide Comment] Anyone have any info on the stuff that's been done since the guidebook came out? Aaron, James, you guys have a topo? Dec 5, 2010

[Hide Comment] Dow Williams has some excellent info about the crag and approach on his Summitpost page. Approach from the south via a high clearance 2WD dirt road and hike along a well defined trail down into the canyon. The cliffs aren't visible from satellite imagery, but obvious once you get to the canyon rim. Access from the north would be on private property. Jan 20, 2015

[Hide Comment] Thanks for pointing this out.

Here is the summitpost link summitpost.org/underworld-5… Jan 26, 2015

[Hide Comment] UPDATE ON ACCESS FROM THE NORTH (crossing private property): After a few trips to the Underworld, I finally met the land owner (Trent). He's a nice cowboy.

I was parked on the road, next to his cattle gate just waiting for another party to arrive so we could all head down together, and he drove up in his truck. We spoke at length about the 'trespassers on the land' and how he didn't mind if we crossed his property to rap off the cliffs, but WE NEED TO ASK FOR HIS PERMISSION FIRST. He is allowing climbers to WALK (not drive or park on) across his field to access the cliff faces below, if they ask for permission. Access could easily be revoked, so don't abuse this.

Here is what I recommend, so you don't get your car towed or shot at while crossing the field: show up to his house (within reasonable hours, not early morning or late at night). Come bearing gifts. A pie from Veyo Pies is acceptable. Ask nicely for permission to park outside his gate and cross his property to rap off the cliffs at the edge of his property. He will most likely grant you permission, unless other climbers have already ruined it for you. Also, offer to pickup some trash on your way in and out. The gesture will be appreciated.

I have uploaded some map images to the mp page for your reference on the best approach beta from the North. Again, remember to ask for permission before crossing the property!

If you are not willing to do these few extra steps, plan some extra time to approach from the south using the standard approach beta. Jan 25, 2022

[Hide Comment] If you have criticisms on the access route from the North, please keep it to yourself. I have worked very hard to make this happen for folks (talking to land owners, trail building, map making, etc.) so no need to spread your discontent. Thanks. Jan 29, 2022

[Hide Comment] Ben, thanks for all your work down there. I do have a question though. If Trent is not home, what do you recommend? And I know its not a big destination zone (right now) but you know what its like when you have an easy approach to any climbing areas. Is he totally cool with random people knocking on his door, maybe every day when the crag is good to go? Good idea on the pie by the way.
Cheers! Jan 29, 2022

[Hide Comment] hey @apross. thanks for the kudos. If Trent is not home, I would recommend taking the southern approach, or going 20 minutes up the road to Pine Valley (which has a very similar rock style, more variety in climbs, and a super easy approach). I am working on developing the trail and approach beta to PV and should have something posted soon. It's not that far out of the way.

There is always the southern approach via the road to Prophesy. I recommend trying to get ahold of him the afternoon or evening before you want to climb, that way there is no confusion. His house is about 2 minutes outside of Veyo, so its not that far out of the way.

Essentially: if you're unable to get ahold of Trent, I recommend avoiding the Northern approach, best to stay on the safe side. Jan 30, 2022

[Hide Comment] The southern approach is an easy, pleasant hike on a good trail that takes less than a half hour (.8 mile distance with 425' elevation gain on the way out.) It hardly seems worth troubling the local landowners to avoid it. We saw a blue heron while walking along the creek, which was a cool surprise in a desert environment. The road has some large embedded rocks to negotiate but my old Toyota van made it back there in 2wd just fine. Short wheelbase is a plus if you don't have super high clearance. Jan 31, 2022

[Hide Comment] aschmidt is spot on: Bugging a landowner to avoid the “longer” approach is silly; we got to the end of the road (slowly) in my Subaru Outback no problem, it’s a very pleasant and pretty walk on a good trail from there, about 25 minutes to the wall. If you can’t make it to the end of the road it’s only an extra 10-minute flat walk from the reservoir to the trail. The road gets really muddy after rain and may be impassible (and if you drive it you’re gunna make it worse).

There are a lot of mistakes/inconsistencies/omissions in the guide for this area; have the guide and the Proj to best navigate Underworld.

Maybe I don't get out much, but this is one of the coolest crags I've ever climbed at. Feb 14, 2024

[Hide Comment] I got some more details on the North (private property) approach yesterday. I agree with others that it's better to just approach the normal way from the South, unless you've only got a low-clearance vehicle.

For those who might need to access the wall through Trent's property, please see the map that I have added to this page. Some of the property owners ask for absolutely no trespassing on their property. I have highlighted their property in red on the map so that we can all leave them alone and respect their land.

As Ben said, Trent asks for anyone entering his property to talk to him first. Depending on what animals he has on the land at any given time might dictate where he asks you to walk. Jan 29, 2025