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Apr 21, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Following up a new route out in the Mojave Desert....
Jason Kim wrote:
Once you factor in the cost of film and processing, I'm not so sure that using an old 35 mm body will save any money in the long run.


Once you drop a modern camera or lens and need to replace it, that's about 2,500 images worth of film and processing (if you do it yourself).

I had a high end Fuji P&S I used to use for backpacking and canyoneering (took great pics). I had it double-bagged in dry bags and somehow it got wet and destroyed (now I have a small Pelican case for carrying camera gear whenever there's a lot of water around.). $250+ to replace it. If water got into my Nikkormat, I know I could take the lens apart (on my fixed lenses, haven't tried a zoom yet) and clean it and get it going again, and could scrounge around on Ebay or KEH for a perfectly functioning body for $60-$80. Try that with a DSLR. That's the main reason I got back into film... but I fell back in love with it.

Anyways, if necessary, I could definitely take high quality pictures even with this setup:

photojojo.com/store/awesomenes...

They're actually pretty sweet, I use that macro lens and the inversion setting on my iPhone to inspect negs. My brother's Droid Razr HD even has exposure compensation and white balance settings on-board. I'm sure you could take magazine quality pictures with that rig, actually...

Anyways, sorry to go all luddite. Photography is an art. Use whatever tools are easy to use and give you what you envision.
Davis Stevenson
From Mountainair, NM
Joined Dec 5, 2010
26 points
Apr 21, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Halloween 2011
These are NOT my best photos, but I though it would be interesting to show the crazy capabilities of the iPhone and free editing apps, and what you can do on the fly with a minimalist attitude. These are not R&I magazine-quality but their effectiveness in inspiring friends rely on timing, as I will usually post these photos immediately after a session.

1. Red Rock Canyon - Stratocaster Wall
Rock Climbing Photo: Camera:  iPhone 5 Editing:  Snapseed
Camera: iPhone 5
Editing: Snapseed


2. Flagstaff Mountain - Hobo Cave
Rock Climbing Photo: Camera:  iPhone 5 Editing:  Snapseed
Camera: iPhone 5
Editing: Snapseed


3. Shelf Road - Contest Wall
Rock Climbing Photo: Camera:  iPhone 5 Editing:  Snapseed
Camera: iPhone 5
Editing: Snapseed


4. Carter Lake - Big Kahuna Roof
Rock Climbing Photo: Camera:  iPhone 5 Editing:  Snapseed
Camera: iPhone 5
Editing: Snapseed
nadeleets
Joined Apr 16, 2010
39 points
Apr 21, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Descending Cox Col (Bear Creek Spire). Photo by Ry...
Davis Stevenson wrote:
Once you drop a modern camera or lens and need to replace it, that's about 2,500 images worth of film and processing (if you do it yourself).


To be fair, the price of the glass would be the same in either case. I suppose we need to compare bodies and then batteries/memory vs. film/processing. I call it a wash!

Davis Stevenson wrote:
Photography is an art. Use whatever tools are easy to use and give you what you envision.


You hit the nail on the head!!
Jason Kim
From Encinitas, CA
Joined Apr 30, 2012
346 points
Apr 22, 2013
How about some more point and shoot action? Here are a couple of my favorites.

Camera: Sony DSC-H55

Rock Climbing Photo: Longs Peak - Notch Couloir
Longs Peak - Notch Couloir



Rock Climbing Photo: Mount Valhalla - West Ridge
Mount Valhalla - West Ridge



Rock Climbing Photo: Mount Adams, Sangre De Cristos
Mount Adams, Sangre De Cristos
Jason Maki
Joined Mar 19, 2012
99 points
Apr 22, 2013




Helldorado
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 8, 2006
38 points
Apr 22, 2013
PHOTOASSAULT!!!





















/END PHOTOASSAULT...
tenesmus
Joined Jan 7, 2004
2,663 points
Apr 22, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Laps in Ouray
Rock Climbing Photo: Shaking out the pump on Carlsberg Column.
Shaking out the pump on Carlsberg Column.

Rock Climbing Photo: Doug leading the last pitch of Louise Falls
Doug leading the last pitch of Louise Falls

Rock Climbing Photo: Doug leading the last pitch of Louise Falls
Doug leading the last pitch of Louise Falls


D70 + Nikkor 12-24mm f4 + RAW

My preference is for a super wide lens. You won't really push the limits of most sensors if you don't have good glass in front.
Jonathan White
From littleton, co
Joined Aug 22, 2005
114 points
Apr 22, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Following up a new route out in the Mojave Desert....
Jason Kim wrote:
To be fair, the price of the glass would be the same in either case. I suppose we need to compare bodies and then batteries/memory vs. film/processing. I call it a wash! You hit the nail on the head!!


Not entirely sure about that, I just picked up a 50mm 1.4 (pre-AI... OLD/transitional bodies only without modification) for $80 and modified it myself. Same optics as the new stuff, for a few hundred less.

That's a tip for everyone, though, any of the higher-end prosumer bodies or pro bodies, it will meter and give aperture-priority with any Nikon glass. Check out KEH and eBay, as it takes about 10 minutes and a file to get any Nikon lens from before 1977 to fit a modern body with some auto functionality, and no modification for 85% of the lenses newer than that. It's a great way to get nice glass while you're just getting into it. With careful shopping my whole kit is up to only $350 (28mm, 50mm f/2, 50mm f/1.4, 100mm f/2.8, 135mm f/2.8, old 35mm-105 zoom). I usually cary the 28, 50, and 135, or the zoom and cheap 50 if I might break stuff.

I'm processing the last 2 years of stuff I have had this week... Maybe I'll make some scans to proof to show off here (even though I usually hate to). Don't know if I have too many climbing pictures mixed in there, but I do know I have a couple rolls of canyoneering stuff.

EDIT: Can't wait to get all my old negs out of storage, too. Probably a few hundred I haven't seen in years. I know I definitely have plenty of good stuff in there.
Davis Stevenson
From Mountainair, NM
Joined Dec 5, 2010
26 points
Apr 25, 2013
Jason Kim wrote:
Questions that really, only you can answer, Dylan. No one knows the conditions you will be shooting in, how you will treat your gear, etc. Since it sounds like you have some fairly legit climbing goals in mind, I'd say that spending the extra money on a lightweight body, weather sealing, etc. will all come in handy, and might be justified if you've got a hookup with Nikon. In my experience, having spent many days in the backcountry in adverse conditions, there are only two things that will keep your camera gear in good operating condition: be as careful as you can and hope for some luck. Water, dust, etc. will eventually find their way into your gear, sealed or not. If it were me, and I was planning to invest in a new rig with the primary goal of making publish-worthy images during climbing trips, I'd buy a used version of a newer compact DSLR and a used zoom that covers something in the range of 22-100 mm (adjust for cropped sensor). Since the likelihood of damaging your gear beyond repair is very real, I wouldn't bother spending the money on new equipment, or an expensive body. Hopefully it will last you a season or two, and it won't be too painful to replace it after you smash your camera against a rock. Kinesis (kgear.com/store/) makes some nice accessories, including harness/strap systems that you might find useful. I use some of their stuff on extended backpacking trips when I'm carrying a ton of gear. I appreciate your desire to raise the stoke, and I will happily play along! Here's a shot of the moon and Jupiter over Mt. Hitchcock, as viewed from the west face of Mt. Whitney. Unfortunately, I don't really have any shots that involve bona fide climbing since it seems I'm always doing one or the other (it's damn hard to make nice photos while climbing). I do have some photos that climbers might appreciate, though. Canon 5D2, Canon 24-105L. Shot at very high ISO while bracing the tripod against my body to combat some fierce wind. Canon 5D2, Canon 17-40L. Sunrise from the summit of Haleakala, a standard tourist shot. Canon 5D2, Canon 17-40L. Lying in my tent at sunrise, and everything started to turn pink. I stuck my head outside the fly and saw this scene directly above. I have never moved so fast to get a shot set up. The light was gone less than a minute later.

Pretty good.
I also love the great outdoors. I like photography. But my parents wouldn't let me go to the adventure.
frxvced
Joined Apr 22, 2013
0 points
Dec 6, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Valle Cochamo
Hi all, thought I'd bring this thread full circle with some shots through the new glass!

I listened hard to the advice provided here and went Nikon to take advantage of family lenses... Chose the D5200 for its glove-approved operation, in-camera features, 60fps HD shooting, and gimmicky fold-out screen that has proved to come in handy.

I've been climbing and playing with the camera in KY, WV, NC, TX, AR, and TN and it's served all my needs with aplomb

Picture is worth...
Rock Climbing Photo: Austin night climb
Austin night climb


Rock Climbing Photo: Summer-camper smearing.   (Face blurred for privac...
Summer-camper smearing.

(Face blurred for privacy)


Rock Climbing Photo: Some bridge in West Virginia...
Some bridge in West Virginia...



Rock Climbing Photo: Gorgeous in North Carolina's gorge
Gorgeous in North Carolina's gorge


Rock Climbing Photo: Sendin' Seneca's Sevens
Sendin' Seneca's Sevens



Rock Climbing Photo: Resting in the Red
Resting in the Red




Rock Climbing Photo: Brrr in Big Bend
Brrr in Big Bend



Rock Climbing Photo: My senior, smiling. (Enchanted Rock, TX)
My senior, smiling. (Enchanted Rock, TX)



I also had the good fortune of finding time to carry a POS point-and-shoot on a 1000 mile bike tour up the Atlantic coast proving that timing, lighting, luck, and composition still work without needing to schlepp pounds of kit...


Rock Climbing Photo: Blue Ridge sunrise, point and shoot (from my sleep...
Blue Ridge sunrise, point and shoot (from my sleeping bag!)


Rock Climbing Photo: Lincoln Memorial, Olympus point and assassinate, I...
Lincoln Memorial, Olympus point and assassinate, I mean shoot (too far? sorry...)
Dylan Weldin
From Athens, OH
Joined Dec 5, 2010
1,504 points
Dec 6, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: The cliche profile picture.
Dylan,

It all depends on what type of shooting you want to do,

My current setup is a Nikon D7000 with a Tamron 18-270mm lens.

My Photos

I enjoy the ability to get a range of shots without the need to switch lens in the field, but with that I am by no means an expert, a lot of photography (as it seems you are already aware) is dependent on the photographer themselves.

Don't get me wrong, I love all the options I have on my fancy Nikon, but I am nowhere near utilizing the full potential of that camera yet, I have seen superior photos taken on worse cameras, I have also taken some awesome shots.

Saying that, if you are going to make large prints (someone already addressed this point) then you'll want to watch the megapixels, and a DSLR is probably what you want. Depending on the shot you want, with a DSLR you will likely have to get into position, so if you have a zoom lens you could be on the ground or at the top of a pitch, if you have a wide angle you can get up on the face next to them.

If you're looking for getting some great shots to show to friends and family I would recommend one of those heavy duty, waterproof point and shoots.

What I've noticed make the biggest difference is white balance...its easy to overlook, and most cameras do a decent auto setting, but if you want to get those 'amazing shots' then take some time and learn how to do it well.

Also, I'd recommend a UV-0 filter for you lens so when you do accidently ream it into the face your $$ filter is scratched and not your $$$ lens.

Just my two cents.

EDIT: Also, from the initial photo from the cover of Rock and Ice magazine you posted it appears you really want to play with ISO, some smaller cameras have this feature, but watch the diameter of your lens and the aperture (f/stops), the higher the f/stop the less light allowed through the lens.

Again, I only state this because I wish someone had told me when I was starting out, but if you are well accustomed to this then someone else may find it useful.
Josh.H
From Albuquerque, NM
Joined Dec 2, 2013
5 points
Dec 6, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: eldo roof
Rock Climbing Photo: old school
old school


Rock Climbing Photo: moab---good old times
moab---good old times


Rock Climbing Photo: eldo
eldo
elwood
Joined Jan 31, 2006
85 points
Dec 6, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Seneca Rocks, West Virginia
Seneca Rocks, West Virginia
Jonathan Dull
From Boone, NC
Joined Mar 2, 2012
448 points
Dec 6, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: El Cap Meadow
El Cap Meadow


Photo Credit: Paul David Martin of Boone, NC
Jonathan Dull
From Boone, NC
Joined Mar 2, 2012
448 points
Dec 6, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Brass monkey
Rock Climbing Photo: The Nose
The Nose
Brassmonkey
Joined Jan 19, 2012
115 points
Dec 6, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Ahhhh, remember the hair and pay tribute to it.
Rock Climbing Photo: My brother Jimmy following a pitch on Serpentine A...
My brother Jimmy following a pitch on Serpentine Arete, Dragontail Peak, Enchantments, WA. Colchuck Glacier far below.
ScoRo
From Portland, OR
Joined Jun 11, 2002
130 points
Dec 6, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Ahhhh, remember the hair and pay tribute to it.
Rock Climbing Photo: Hand Solo, Selfish Wall, Indian Creek
Hand Solo, Selfish Wall, Indian Creek
ScoRo
From Portland, OR
Joined Jun 11, 2002
130 points
Dec 8, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: on belay
Rock Climbing Photo: Storm approaching, Chamonix
Storm approaching, Chamonix
Steve Jones
Joined Jun 6, 2011
122 points
Dec 8, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: teewinot summit
teewinot summit
H..
From Washingtonville NY
Joined Apr 9, 2012
50 points
Dec 8, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Gearing up for Pinnacle Gully (WI3), Huntington Ra...
Photography is still a hobby for me but I love representing my travels in writing and images. I think it is an effective way to connect with other climbers that have shared similar experiences you are trying to elucidate through an image.

I carry the Panasonic GF1 Micro Four Thirds Camera and 20mm Pancake Kit lense. I love the portability and manual control over the camera, perfect for rock/ice/alpine in my opinion. It tends to get in the way every now and then makes me wish for a slim point and shoot waterproof camera. I swear by Mountainsmith's Soft cases for transporting the camera. I have yet to buy a Pelican case but imagine I will for a longer trip with more exposure.

Here's a sample image from the GF1 (there are much newer and much better versions of this camera now). I attach it to the binocular clips on my alpine pack with small carabiners for easy removal. It doesn't bounce around at all and is always slung around my neck to get a shot whenever I have a hand. I shoot in .raw and have great control over the finished product. Not a bad camera for some of the environments I have taken it in!

Rock Climbing Photo: Kerlingarfjöll, Iceland
Kerlingarfjöll, Iceland


Rock Climbing Photo: Gearing up for Pinnacle Gully (WI3), Huntington Ra...
Gearing up for Pinnacle Gully (WI3), Huntington Ravine, Mount Washington, New Hampshire.
Clint Valentine
From Boston, MA
Joined Jun 11, 2013
149 points
Dec 8, 2013
Skyladder, Mount Andromeda
Rock Climbing Photo: Skyladder
Skyladder


Descending the Lowe Route, Sphinx, Montana
Rock Climbing Photo: Sphinx
Sphinx


Sunshine, Snowpatch Spire, Bugaboos
Rock Climbing Photo: Snowpatch
Snowpatch


These were shot with one of two beat up old 20Ds. Lens is 17-40 F4L. Autofocus doesn't work on this lens anymore, but that's not really an issue with a lens this wide.

I almost lost the Skyladder image. I had bumped the dial climbing and ended up several stops overexposed. The Jpeg was solid white. Fortunately, I was able to pull enough data from the RAW file to put an image together.

When I bought my cameras, there wasn't a lighter alternative with satisfactory quality, durability, and handling. That said, I can't see myself buying another SLR. The mirrorless genre combines excellent optics and handling into a camera system less than half the weight of mine. Some are quite well built, too.

Edited to add:
I don't carry a camera case, nor do use any filters in front of my lens. I simply put the camera in my pack for transport and over my shoulder when there's a chance of getting the shot. My kit does take a lot of cosmetic damage (scratches, small dents), but nothing that affects the quality of my photography. The glass is still pristine despite my hatred of lens caps and filters because the hood takes all of the rock bashing. I consider a lens hood to be pretty much a requirement, it protects the lens AND improves image quality. A filter usually creates negative optical characteristics and at best does nothing for the photo.
Dobson
From Butte, MT
Joined Oct 20, 2011
217 points
Nov 4, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: V6, blinded by sunlight, Mt. Herman, Monument CO
I see this is an older forum but thought id share some of mine! I mainly chimb in Little Cottonwood Canyon, UT so all of these are up there. All taken with my Nikon D7200 and with either a rokinon 12mm or my nikon 50 1.8

Rock Climbing Photo: My friend chris working "ping" in LCC
My friend chris working "ping" in LCC


Rock Climbing Photo: Chris in "the round room" in lcc
Chris in "the round room" in lcc


Rock Climbing Photo: My friend Chris on "the big guy" in LCC
My friend Chris on "the big guy" in LCC


Rock Climbing Photo: Devin climbing in LCC
Devin climbing in LCC
Jeff S
From Pleasant grove, UT
Joined Jun 17, 2014
441 points
Nov 29, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: Pups on Presi Traverse
Rock Climbing Photo: Xexela on Sherman
Xexela on Sherman
TSluiter
From Holland, VT
Joined May 18, 2013
322 points
Nov 29, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: Natural Bridge south of Moab framing Mt Tukuhnikiv...
Natural Bridge south of Moab framing Mt Tukuhnikivatz.
david goldstein
Joined Jan 1, 2001
2,699 points
Dec 8, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: A wedding at Wild Iris after a day of trying hard
All of these were taken with a Panasonic GH4 14-140mm f/3.5-5.8

1) Phil Magistro on Annunaki

Rock Climbing Photo: Phil belays Phil
Phil belays Phil


2) Phil Binnema on Flight Time

Rock Climbing Photo: Phil Binnema gets the onsight
Phil Binnema gets the onsight


3) Nothing stands out, so let's go with fun: Disa Kohlstrom on Beer Bong

Rock Climbing Photo: Disa spinning around in the stem at the top of Bee...
Disa spinning around in the stem at the top of Beer Bong
Matt Enlow
From Wyoming
Joined Jan 29, 2013
449 points


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