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You and You 

YDS: 5.10 French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b

Type:  Trad, 4 pitches, Grade II
Original:  YDS: 5.10 French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b [details]
FA: Brody Greer, Eric Draper, Bryan Bird 08/21/03
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Submitted By: Nathan Scherneck on Apr 8, 2011

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Corey Gargano making the exposed face moves to sta...

Seasonal Raptor Closures ***** RAIN AND WET ROCK ***** The sandstone in Zion is fragile and is very easily damaged when it is wet. Holds rip off and climbs have been and will continue to be permanently damaged due to climbers not respecting this phenomenon. After a heavy storm the rock will remain wet, sometimes for several days. PLEASE DO NOT CLIMB IN ZION during or after rain. A good rule of thumb is that if the ground near your climb is at all damp (and not powdery dry sand), then do not climb. There are many alternatives (limestone, granite, basalt, and plastic) nearby. Seasonal Raptor Closures MORE INFO >>>


For a relatively short multi-pitch route You and You is an adventurous undertaking. The route starts between two left facing corners.

P1 - Climb the fist crack / offwidth on the face to the right of the corner crack. Belay (build an anchor) at a tree on a loose and dirty slope. 5.10

P2 - Climb up a mossy slab / seam to the base of a hand and fist crack. Belay (build an anchor) on a nice ledge. 5.9

P3 - Up a couple ledges in a left facing corner to a strange sandy crack on the right face. Make a couple moves up the crack into the obvious cave (interesting feature). Make careful moves straight up and out of the cave (some loose chock stones here). Belay (build an anchor) above on ledge. 5.7

P4 - Make some very exposed face moves (slot a stopper at foot level to protect from a factor 2 fall) up and into the fist crack which widens to offwidth. Climb this using offwidth technique or use the loose and sandy face features. Continue up a couple mossy sections to a large bush and single bolt to climbers right. 5.9+

Descent - (2) 60M ropes, the Supertopo is spot on for the descent of this route.

R1 - Rappel from the single bolt to climbers right of the large chimney. The next station is at the top of I'N'I'. (we used two 60M ropes on this rappel, but this might be possible with a single 60M)

R2 - Rappel to the bushy ledge. ~ 85'

R3 - Rappel from a tree to the base of I'N'I'. (we used two 60M ropes on this rappel, but this might be possible with a single 60M)


The route is located to the left of I'N'I'


Double rack to #4 Camalot + (1) #5 Camalot (optional)

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Rock Climbing Photo: Nathan Scherneck leading P1 of 'You and You'
Nathan Scherneck leading P1 of 'You and You'

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