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Wild Country Helium vs. Petzl Ange (because Camp Nano 23 sucks)
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Mar 28, 2012
Kevin Landolt wrote:
I love my camp Nano 23s. What's all the hate about?

them deadly notches will kill you didnt you know that ;)

as to biner envy ... dont worry about it ... the nitros will do anything a $$$$ biner you will use a wiregate for just as well (for overhang sports, most weenies use big beefy biners with big beefy dogbones they can grab anyways) ... worry about how much it costs and performs, not how it looks, it wont stay nice and shiny for too long if yr climbing alot anyways
Joined Mar 1, 2009
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Mar 29, 2012
coldfinger wrote:
No idea on when the Alpha light will be here but I'd call Lisa & Steve at Excalibur in SLC, they'll know and should be able to ship direct.

Took your advice. Alpha Light should be in around summer, like June or July. Just like the Trad, but comparable in size to a Phantom.

I'm holding out until then, ordering a couple, and playing with clipping them from all angles, into stuff, handling, w/ and w/o gloves. Comparing directly to the Alpha Trad, Heliums, and Ange S's. Then I'll post a detailed review and replace my rack of Prowires with the winner :)
Matt Glue
From Boulder, CO
Joined Nov 19, 2008
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Mar 29, 2012
Mammut Moses biners ...27 grams.
From Indiana
Joined Oct 4, 2010
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Feb 13, 2013
What happened to the trad lights being released, anyone know? Forrest L.
Joined Nov 12, 2011
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Feb 13, 2013
Forrest L. wrote:
What happened to the trad lights being released, anyone know?

I suspect that we haven't seen them yet due to production delays on DMM's end.
From Vancouver, BC
Joined Oct 12, 2009
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Feb 13, 2013
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I've got nothing but good things to say about the Anges, I originally bought them for making alpine draws and they work great, super light, and very easy to clip. After using them for a while I started buying the small size to put on all my cams and I still have no complaints, I think they are one of the best on the market and I couldn't recommend them more. that being said I haven't used the Helium at all so they could be as good, but I do like the gates on the Ange better then the tradition wire gates. Jared Garfield
Joined Oct 20, 2011
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Feb 13, 2013
Helium, strong as hell, well made, EASY to clip with gloves, light, gorgeous....i'm sure the petzl ones are fine....i'd say go with whatever gives you the warm/fuzzy.... coppolillo
Joined Sep 9, 2009
70 points
Feb 13, 2013
One more vote for the Ange L. It just feels ver well put together and smooth. I also like the newest version of Nanos with the raised lettering, but not the older one with the loose gates. I've also tried the DMM Shield and was not a fan. DannyUncanny
From Vancouver
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