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Whimsical Dreams 

YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch
Original:  YDS: 5.11- French: 6c Ewbanks: 22 UIAA: VIII+ ZA: 22 British: E3 5c [details]
FA: FFA: Jimmy Dunn, 1975
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Submitted By: Ben F on Oct 28, 2001

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Dan Dalton climbs Whimsical Dreams.


Whimsical Dreams is on the Turkey Tail. This route is fantastic and it does not let go of you until you reach the anchors at the ledge. It was a very humbling experience to make it through the 2 5.11- sections and then blow the 5.10 exit roof.

This climb is the first crack on the left side of the wall with all kind of chalk on it. It starts in a small, right-facing corner. Above, you will see a slot through a very small roof. After that, the crack system continues straight upwards into a left-facing corner that leads to a roof. Pull out of this and continue for maybe 15 feet to the anchors. This climb protects very-well. Keep a cool head, don't get to anxious on it, and milk your rests one you find them.


Bring stoppers, more stoppers, a set of cams up to a #4 Camalot. Don't worry, you get to dump the 3 and 4 Camalots low. You may want to double on 0#.75 and 1 Camalot sizes. There is an anchor at the top of the climb from which you can rappel using a 60 m rope.

Photos of Whimsical Dreams Slideshow Add Photo
Rock Climbing Photo: Under the roof.
Under the roof.
Rock Climbing Photo: Eli milks the tenuous jams on Whimsical Dreams.
Eli milks the tenuous jams on Whimsical Dreams.
Rock Climbing Photo: Peterman Whimsically Dreaming.  Photo by D.Mabe
Peterman Whimsically Dreaming. Photo by D.Mabe
Rock Climbing Photo: Turning the roof.
Turning the roof.
Rock Climbing Photo: Yours truly, mid crux on my redpoint of this fanta...
BETA PHOTO: Yours truly, mid crux on my redpoint of this fanta...
Rock Climbing Photo:
Rock Climbing Photo: John Langston finding good jams thru the roof. Pho...
John Langston finding good jams thru the roof. Pho...
Rock Climbing Photo: Just past the crux
Just past the crux
Rock Climbing Photo: John Langston walking up Whimsical. Photo by Ben H...
John Langston walking up Whimsical. Photo by Ben H...
Rock Climbing Photo: Bob Horan on Whimsical Dreams, Turkey Tail.
Bob Horan on Whimsical Dreams, Turkey Tail.
Rock Climbing Photo: Having too much fun again
Having too much fun again
Rock Climbing Photo: Photo by Bosier Parsons.
Photo by Bosier Parsons.
Rock Climbing Photo: Photo by Bosier Parsons.
Photo by Bosier Parsons.
Rock Climbing Photo: Photo by Bosier Parsons.
Photo by Bosier Parsons.
Rock Climbing Photo: Photo by Bosier Parsons.
Photo by Bosier Parsons.

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By jason seaver
From: Estes Park, CO
Nov 23, 2001

A full-value pitch !
By Brian Milhaupt
From: Golden, CO
Jun 1, 2003

There is a second pitch to this route. Move the belay 20' to the right, to the next left facing corner. Climb the steep arching crack with rp's and small cams or ballnutz to a handcrack 10d. Continue to the top with another 5.10 move to exit the crack system. Descend 4th class to the north and back around past the Turkey Perch.
By Thomas Jensen
Jul 11, 2003

I would rate this as one of the BEST cracks anywhere! So much fun! Don't place a cam at the lip of the last roof! It will catch your rope and lock you down at a most inconvenient spot. (11- ???? Did Jimmy Dunn rate this thing???)
By Peter Holcombe
May 12, 2004

Actually, Jimmy and Brian Teale (who also participated in the F/A) rated it 5.10+......
Jul 12, 2004

For me the technical crux was at the first, smaller roof. Several good rests exists, milk them. Bring a couple pieces in the yellow/ red alien size.
By Bosier Parsons
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Aug 29, 2004

The original rating was 5.10+, claiming no moves were harder than this, but obviously very sustained.

Earl Wiggins free-soloed the route.
By Robert Stetler
Jun 20, 2005
rating: 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c

I onsighted this route last year. My strategy was simple. I sprayed to my climbing partner that I had onsighted this route a week earlier and Jimmy Dunn was watching so I sprayed to him, too. With all that hype, it's near impossible to fall. After the onsight, I fell every time I attempted it for a year. This is one of the best pitches anywhere, including the valley. If you can't climb this, jug it. You need to get on this climb.
By nolteboy
From: Fort Collins, CO
Oct 9, 2005

Granite cracks don't get much better than this.
By Bruce Hildenbrand
Aug 12, 2006

Maybe the locals can add a bit of reality here, but one reason for the original 5.10+ rating may be that there was a small tree at the first crux section (thin twin cracks) which probably made these moves easier (and is the reason the tree is no longer there!!!).

By Joseph DeGaetano
From: Fayetteville, WV
May 27, 2008

For me the crux is the mini offwidth roof 2/3 of the way up. I'm curious: Did you use squeeze and jam through it or use the sport weenie method and crimp and pimp through it. Being a East Coast, sport weenie I had to do the latter-no way was I figuring out the squeeze and jamming beta on that one.
By Matt Burns
Oct 6, 2008

I think the odd crux in the middle has to be one of the strangest sequences I've ever done on a climb. I'm still amazed that it worked.

And then I blew it getting into the 5.10 roof above. Full value though. It felt much longer than 90' and not a gimmie at the grade.
By Brett Nelson
Mar 9, 2009

Any info on the route that breaks right 1/3 of the way up Whimsical Dreams and climbs the left-facing dihedral about 8 feet right? There are two pitons in the first roof of this adjacent crack.
By Mark Cushman
From: Cumming, GA
Mar 9, 2009

@Brett Nelson, the pins moved a bit when I clipped them on rappel to take some photos, I wouldn't trust them to hold a fall.
By Kevin Stricker
From: Evergreen, CO
Mar 9, 2009

That is the Fender Route (edit: Dekkers Route)...mid 11, thinner and dirtier than Whimsical but still a fun outing.
By slim
Mar 9, 2009
rating: 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c

Kevin, I had thought it was the Dekker variation (?). A couple friends did it and said it was pretty fun. Looks kind of hairy.
By Allen Hill
From: FIve Points, Colorado and Pine
Mar 9, 2009

It's the Dekker route. 5.11a.
By Hanson Smith
From: Boulder, CO
May 20, 2014

I added quicklinks to the two bolts after the second pitch. These bolts had previously had tat and then bail biners on them. I feel that the addition doesn't change the character of the route, it just allows you to rappel the route from the top of the tail. If anyone feels that these quicklinks need to go, post it here and I will remove the quicklinks.
By Jonathan Awerbuch
From: Boulder, Colorado
Apr 16, 2016

You can't rap or lower with a 60 meter rope! I think a 70 would make it; we were about 20 feet short with a 60.

I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this. Maybe the anchor bolts are new and in a different location? Maybe my partner doesn't know how long his rope is?

Anyway, use a 70 or know how to do some shenanigans.

Possibly my favorite climb at Turkey Rocks.
By Jay Eggleston
From: Denver
Apr 16, 2016
rating: 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c

I top roped this with a 70m rope. So, it is long enough.
By michalm
From: Boulder, CO
May 15, 2016
rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

One of the best pitches of its grade anywhere I've climbed. Takes nuts well in the fingers sections.
By Bosier Parsons
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Aug 21, 2016

The new 2-bolt anchor was added by someone (I believe) this past winter/early spring. The consensus from people I've talked to about these (and my own opinion having used them) is that this anchor was placed in a poor location, contributing to more rope drag and direct outward pull on the bolts. It is also further up and back from where the old cable used to be around the block. It would be nice if there was some discussion, via the PPCA or just through this general forum, regarding decisions like these, as I'm sure others would have some good ideas about what, if anything, needs to be replaced, and if there's a location that makes more sense. Thanks.

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