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May 25, 2016
The thread on best jobs for climbers got me thinking about retirement. In particular, where could you retire early and stretch out your nest egg that also has a lot of climbing?

Seems like a lot of expats live out their days in Central America or the Caribbean on the cheap, but there isn't a lot of climbing there that I'm aware of. Where do all the expat climbers go?
SteveF
From Fort Collins, CO
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Vegas would be a great option. VERY cheap living out in the desert. Same thing with Wyoming or the rural southeast. Even living out on the Western Slope of CO can be quite affordable in the right areas, e.g. near Gunnison.

Internationally, I would look at Ecuador. They are on the US Dollar standard which will make banking very easy. No chance of local hyperinflation devaluing your life savings. Inexpensive. Good, but not amazing climbing. Great if you're into alpine climbing and volcanoes though. And Peru, Bolivia, and the rest of the Andes are around the corner. Very cheap flights if/when you gain SA citizenship.
Jon H
From Boulder
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May 25, 2016
Depends on how much loot has been squirreled away. In a perfect world, Southern Spain. Climbing, weather, food...
Realistically? The desert; cheap, rocks and either a bunch of other weirdos to be retired with or no one else at all.
simplyput
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May 25, 2016
Skimming expat blogs I saw Spain and Portugal mentioned a few times which surprised me because I always thought anywhere in western Europe would be too expensive.

Also, alpine climbing is all I ever hear about for South America. Are there any good South or Central American cragging destinations that are also near good cheap places to live?
SteveF
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May 25, 2016
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Tolkien
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Retiring at 32?

Way to go!
mountainhick
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May 26, 2016
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Thailand. Cheap eats, cheap housing, beach living. Doesn't get any better. jackkelly00
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May 26, 2016
mountainhick wrote:
Retiring at 32? Way to go!


No. Still a long ways away for me. Just starting long term planning... and also day dreaming.
SteveF
From Fort Collins, CO
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Thailand is too tooo hot! Lets not forget it also has a monsoon season...

My vote is for Cuba. I also have to put one in for NRG.
Tylerpratt
From Litchfield, Connecticut
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May 26, 2016
New River Gorge and Summersville Lake area in the summer. Vegas in the winter. Chris Watkins
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May 26, 2016
Tylerpratt wrote:
My vote is for Cuba.


The MP for Cuba indicates that access to a lot of the climbing areas are banned right now. Not to mention that some Cubans risk their lives on tiny rafts just to get out of Cuba, but I imagine that won't happen much longer considering the recent policy changes in both the US and Cuba.
SteveF
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Yes, they just legalized small business there. This is for retirement so I would assume said person already has the funds to live in retirement.

The banned crags in Cuba have this really really high fine of $5 USD a day...if they come and catch you there...
Tylerpratt
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Tylerpratt wrote:
The banned crags in Cuba have this really really high fine of $5 USD a day...if they come and catch you there...


I wonder what the annual goes for?
J. Broussard
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May 26, 2016
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You could go full-nomad and RV it depending on how much you've had to save and how well you've done it. In my dream world, thats what I do.

I would think St. George would be a decent place to retire. Housing seems tolerable, 4-season climbing within easy distance. I don't know how their hospitals are (important in retirement), but I would be they're solid.
Henry Holub
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Personally, I don't plan on retiring from climbing anytime, anywhere. Rick Blair
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How big is the nest? Hummingbird or Ostrich?

Buy some land, put a small cabin on it and use your money for travel.
Lots of cheap land in southern CO.

That's what I did. Cabin and land was paid off 16 years ago.

I still have at least a decade until I retire but won't be moving anywhere.
Just keep on travelling returning to base camp on occasion.

I will be buying in Cuba as soon as I can. Love that place.
s.price
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May 26, 2016
How about Asheville, NC. Small city, good climbing close, and better climbing near by. fromtheestuary
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I'd say on your private yacht with a helicopter would be ideal Mike Lane
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The mountains between Asheville and Boone, NC are pretty cheap. You can buy a decent house for under 100k. People talk shit about the weather, but it's truly not as bad as it's made out to be. There are plenty of very, very good crags that you only really go to once it gets warm (Ship Rock, Hawksbill, Looking Glass North, Cedar Rock North). And the cooler months and "cold" winters are the only time you really want to head to Rumbling Bald, Whiteside, Laurel Knob, or Stone Mountain. There is more sport climbing than most folks realize, but regardless NRG is 4 hours away and RRG is 5. If you are into bouldering, the high country toward Boone is outstanding. We have the tallest easy ice routes in the Eastern US in the Black Mountains. Brian Abram
From Celo, NC
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Sierra Eastside. Close thread. JoeCrawford
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Vegas is a good option. Red Rocks has a lifetime of climbing and countless long moderate climbs for an "old" person. Its one of my favorite destinations, even over yosemite and JT since theres so many multipitch routes under 5.10 and over 5 pitches. Brian Paden
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JoeCrawford wrote:
Sierra Eastside. Close thread.

Expen$ive. Great place though....Food, housing and fuel are all at premium prices.
Muscrat
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May 26, 2016
I don't know about you all, but I'm not expecting to be a multi-millionaire when I'm in my 50's. Places in the US like Asheville and the eastern Sierra aren't exactly cheap. The US dollar goes a lot further in some other parts of the world which means funds for retiring at 65 could potentially be stretched out to retire in your 50's instead.

I was hoping some other people on MP had personal experience or knew someone who retired early abroad in an area that has modern amenities and access to good climbing. Just probing ideas for the future right now. Cuba and Thailand seem like decent options except they're always hot and humid.
SteveF
From Fort Collins, CO
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May 27, 2016
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SteveF wrote:
I don't know about you all, but I'm not expecting to be a multi-millionaire when I'm in my 50's. Places in the US like Asheville and the eastern Sierra aren't exactly cheap. The US dollar goes a lot further in some other parts of the world which means funds for retiring at 65 could potentially be stretched out to retire in your 50's instead. I was hoping some other people on MP had personal experience or knew someone who retired early abroad in an area that has modern amenities and access to good climbing. Just probing ideas for the future right now. Cuba and Thailand seem like decent options except they're always hot and humid.



The climate in Cuba is actually closer to Hawaii weather then you might expect. It has a nice offshore breeze that whisks away the heat much like Hawaii. I like the heat though to be honest so 95 in the sun and 85 in the shade is what I would call awesome.

When people realize how great the weather is in Cuba, and the climbing is fucking out of this motherfucking world...It's going to explode.
Tylerpratt
From Litchfield, Connecticut
Joined Feb 25, 2016
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May 27, 2016
Hey Steve, if you don't like the answers coming out of the peanut gallery, then maybe you should save up a little more and retire a bit later. Just a thought. Also +1 for Ecuador, I lived there for 1.5 years and its an amazing place with an abundance of potential. fromtheestuary
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