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A-Cute Pain T 
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Pain in the Neck S 
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YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 60'
Original:  YDS: 5.10 French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b [details]
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Submitted By: Nathan Collins on Feb 21, 2016

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BETA PHOTO: Here you can see the climber position for clipping...

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A nice combination of delicate balance, powerful bouldering, and edgy face climbing, all in the first three bolts. After that the climbing eases considerably.

The crux is getting above the second bolt, which you should high clip with your feet in the bowl, since getting much higher than this before clipping the second bolt would mean a potential ground fall.


This route is in between Pain in the Neck and A-Cute Pain. It goes through the big bowl/pocket to the right of Pain in the Neck. The first bolt is in the middle of the pocket.


This is a sport route -- I think there were 6 bolts and the anchor -- but we placed a small cam (0.3 C4) from the ground to protect the belayer, since the route starts on a ledge.

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By Nathan Collins
Feb 21, 2016

We thought this was Pain in the Neck when we climbed, but then we looked at the photos on here for Pain in the Neck and noticed the bolts on this route are not in them! So, this must be a relatively new route.
By Chris Burton
Feb 21, 2016

somebody ought to pull those bolts. that one in the bowl will totally change Pain in the Neck.
some people shouldn't be allowed to use power tools.
By Gray Bush
From: Las Vegas, NV
Feb 26, 2016
rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

Love this route. I think it is a great addition to the wall.
By Weston L
From: Summerlin, NV
Jun 10, 2016
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

Super fun route that serves as a great warmup for the wall. That being way this thing is 5.10

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