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Staring Without Caring 

YDS: 5.14a French: 8b+ Ewbanks: 32 UIAA: X+ ZA: 32 British: E8 7a

Type:  Sport, 70'
Original:  YDS: 5.14a French: 8b+ Ewbanks: 32 UIAA: X+ ZA: 32 British: E8 7a [details]
FA: Joe Kinder (originally bolted by Jeff Parmenter?)
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Submitted By: Drewsky on Jun 20, 2017

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This route follows a compelling section of steep rock that comprises the shelf in that horizontally bifurcates a large section of the crag. An initial section with a testy boulder problem accesses a sweeping rightward traverse. Although it appears one can mantle out of the climb and onto the shelf at several points, I've been assured that either that's not the case or that it's at least undesirable. Though the route was rumored to be good, since the FFA it has been plagued by broken rock, knee injuries from heel hooking and a fade into obscurity from zero attempts in at least the last three years.


The route begins just to the right of Firestarter.


Bolts and fixed permadraws. Fixed lowering hardware.

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By Drewsky
Jun 20, 2017

Feel free to jump in and name this route and/or verify its radness or lack thereof.
By Ben Gilkison
Aug 19, 2017

I'm 95% sure Joe called this "Staring without Caring" Some holds have broken since the FFA though it is probably roughly same grade.

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