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Two ways to jug, which way is better?

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Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25

What is your preferred method? And why?

Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25

I am convinced that a modified grigri method is more efficient. Enlighten me!

Jason Todd · · Cody, WY · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,114

For freehanging jugs, Froggy style is the most efficient way to go.

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Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145

I use two hands, works great for me

Jeff Johnston · · Bozeman, MT · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 110
Marla J wrote:What is your preferred method? And why?
I prefer one hand on each jug and gently squeeze.
But it really is up to you which method works for you weather 1 jumar+grigri or 2 jumars. Practice and more practice or long routes.
Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25
Jeff J wrote: I prefer one hand on each jug and gently squeeze. But it really is up to you which method works for you weather 1 jumar+grigri or 2 jumars. Practice and more practice or long routes.
Get a freakin life..and i like 1 jumar and 1 gri gri. Do i really need a chest harness? My boyfriend redirected the pull up on gri side of rope up with a biner and into a pull down,position from jumar so its easier to use with both hands pulling down.
Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25
Jeff J wrote: I prefer one hand on each jug and gently squeeze. But it really is up to you which method works for you weather 1 jumar+grigri or 2 jumars. Practice and more practice or long routes.
Get a freakin life..and i like 1 jumar and 1 gri gri. Do i really need a chest harness? My boyfriend redirected the pull up on gri side of rope up with a biner and into a pull down,position from jumar so its easier to use with both hands pulling down.
Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25
Buff Johnson wrote:I use two hands, works great for me
Non climber obviously!
Forthright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 110
Marla J wrote: Non climber obviously!
Please tell us more how you are such a hardcore climber doing those 5.7 leads and v3 bolders.

Do we have a possible Elanor resurgence?
Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25
Jake Jones wrote: I haven't seen very many people using one ascender and a GriGri on big walls and aid routes. I think the standard is pretty much the two ascender method for these types of routes. It is more efficient if you know what you're doing and it's rigged correctly. For other purposes that you would use ascending, say, equipping a route, or head pointing a route to figure gear out, etc.- single pitch predominantly, the GriGri and ascender method works well. This is mostly because you can go up and rap down relatively easily without doing a bunch of reconfiguration. So there's your answer. Of course, like anything else, you can become really efficient at something if you do it enough. Perhaps you should not be so quick to label someone a non-climber, until you can answer questions for yourself that the vast majority of "climbers" can. Either that, or just stay away from where you're clearly not wanted. What number profile is this you're using now? Are you up to a dozen yet?
How many pitches have YOU jugged???Mutton....
Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25
NorCalNomad wrote: Please tell us more how you are such a hardcore climber doing those 5.7 leads and v3 bolders. Do we have a possible Elanor resurgence?
Im not hardcore i just climb A LOT
Phillip Tearse · · Denver, CO · Joined May 2008 · Points: 80

maybe I just didnt have it dialed, but for PURE jugging (not cleaning, JUST jugging) froggy style sucks. real bad. real real real bad. Jugging 3 full rope lengths up to sickle ledge took me over twice as long as my partner (who used the classic 2 jumar style) and absolutely destroyed me physically. I used the redirected pull down method (with a revolver biner noless), it still sucks. Its great for short bursts (like when you are cleaning a route) but do that move over 50 times without stopping....goddamn its a workout. WAY more of one than it should be. Again, maybe I just didn't have it dialed in, all the slings and leg loops at the perfect distances...but fuck that, never again.

Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25

I, have jugged my 10th pitch the decision is gri gri ascender method, for now at least. I was just wondering, if anybody has had a personal experience traversing with this method, please contribute.

Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25
Phill T wrote:maybe I just didnt have it dialed, but for PURE jugging (not cleaning, JUST jugging) froggy style sucks. real bad. real real real bad. Jugging 3 full rope lengths up to sickle ledge took me over twice as long as my partner (who used the classic 2 jumar style) and absolutely destroyed me physically. I used the redirected pull down method (with a revolver biner noless), it still sucks. Its great for short bursts (like when you are cleaning a route) but do that move over 50 times without stopping....goddamn its a workout. WAY more of one than it should be. Again, maybe I just didn't have it dialed in, all the slings and leg loops at the perfect distances...but fuck that, never again.
Maybe I just have a strong upper body and not bottom heavy but I had no problem, I enjoyed it actually, workout and all....a lot more to be said when I jug over 50 ft at a time . I almost always clean when I jug though.
Forthright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 110
Forthright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 110
Phill T wrote:maybe I just didnt have it dialed, but for PURE jugging (not cleaning, JUST jugging) froggy style sucks. real bad. real real real bad. Jugging 3 full rope lengths up to sickle ledge took me over twice as long as my partner (who used the classic 2 jumar style) and absolutely destroyed me physically. I used the redirected pull down method (with a revolver biner noless), it still sucks. Its great for short bursts (like when you are cleaning a route) but do that move over 50 times without stopping....goddamn its a workout. WAY more of one than it should be. Again, maybe I just didn't have it dialed in, all the slings and leg loops at the perfect distances...but fuck that, never again.
You use two ascenders when doing frog style... One just chills on your chest.
Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25
NorCalNomad wrote: You use two ascenders when doing frog style... One just chills on your chest.
Non climber again...not exactly chilling... This slyle is not nearly as efficient as the gri gri style.
Ed Wright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2006 · Points: 285

I LOVE my gri-gri but I don't like jumaring with one. I do a LOT of jugging and I much prefer two jumars. If it's very steep I'll fix the lower one directly to my belay loop and use a single etrier.

Dan Allard · · West Chester, PA · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 1,070
Liberty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 25
Ed Wright wrote:I LOVE my gri-gri but I don't like jumaring with one. I do a LOT of jugging and I much prefer two jumars. If it's very steep I'll fix the lower one directly to my belay loop and use a single etrier.
The bottom ascender would not feed for me especially since I tied in and it took the weight off. Too mu ch thumb action for my likings too.
GhaMby Eagan · · Heaven · Joined Oct 2006 · Points: 385

It seems to me that someone is braking rule #1.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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